Cat 5e cable

[Anonymous]

Hi,

don't suppose anybody has any Cat 5e cable in the gloucester(shire) area that they're willing to give away? I need about 50m. I know it's fairly cheap but most places only sell 300m (or smaller quanitites which make it nearly as much).

Need to extend the network down to the workshop as I'm starting work there soon (computing work not wood work).

Cheers,

Dave

 

[Dibs-h]

Hi,

don't suppose anybody has any Cat 5e cable in the gloucester(shire) area that they're willing to give away? I need about 50m. I know it's fairly cheap but most places only sell 300m (or smaller quanitites which make it nearly as much).

Need to extend the network down to the workshop as I'm starting work there soon (computing work not wood work).

Cheers,

Dave

Usually cheaper to just get a drum than mess about with per metre prices. The following might be useful,

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/50m-RJ45-Ethernet ... 286.c0.m14

HIH

Dibs

 

[RogerS]

Hi,

don't suppose anybody has any Cat 5e cable in the gloucester(shire) area that they're willing to give away? I need about 50m. I know it's fairly cheap but most places only sell 300m (or smaller quanitites which make it nearly as much).

Need to extend the network down to the workshop as I'm starting work there soon (computing work not wood work).

Cheers,

Dave

Yes - I have a drum cluttering up the place. I'm just west of the malvern hills.

Roger

 

[cambournepete]

If you decide to buy then £39 will get you this.
I bought over £1000 worth of cables from them when we moved office recently.

 

[Woody Alan]

Just be aware that the cable you are looking at is not external use grade. It will last for quite a while but will degrade and fail eventually. External grade is considerably more expensive.

Alan

 

[Anonymous]

Cheers for all the help. I'll probably do a deal with Roger.

How long is it likely to take for the cable to degrade? Is it mainly sun that degrades it? I've looked at external cable and the price is so high that it would be cheaper to replace cheap cable every year or two.

Dave

 

[Woody Alan]

I thiink you can get away with a few years as long as the sheathing doesn't get snagged ..and it is easy to snag some of the manufacturers cable others are a little more resilient. Yes they are not UV resistant and the sheathing is porous. All of which will degrade it and you may not notice the gradual deteriation over a period.

Alan

 

[Dibs-h]

Cheers for all the help. I'll probably do a deal with Roger.

How long is it likely to take for the cable to degrade? Is it mainly sun that degrades it? I've looked at external cable and the price is so high that it would be cheaper to replace cheap cable every year or two.

Dave

I ran some outside - just got some black tubing conduit from Wickes and ran it thru that.

HIH

Dibs.

p.s. run the cable thru the conduit before you assemble the conduit. DAMHIK.

 

[RogerS]

Cheers for all the help. I'll probably do a deal with Roger.

How long is it likely to take for the cable to degrade? Is it mainly sun that degrades it? I've looked at external cable and the price is so high that it would be cheaper to replace cheap cable every year or two.

Dave

Run it through a cheap hosepipe as protection.

 

[chipchaser]

Hi,
my experience with pvc/pvc cable outside is that protection is worthwhile, the mice ate the insulation so I had to replace it with SWA! Now wish I had put in SWA with conductors twice as thick :roll:

Cat5e is not very stout so could be easily damaged and wouldn't it be a pain to have to replace the cable in the winter in the pouring rain.

Would a wireless connection be easier?

Regards

Graham

 

[Anonymous]

Oddly enough my brother-in-law had exactly the same mouse problem. Do the make the plastic out of mouse food?

I've had a look at wireless and it seems like the only thing that will go that far is wireless-N. Two problems with this....firstly the protocol hasn't even been finalised....secondly most laptops don't come with wireless-N so it would need a dongle. There may be other stuff I haven't read about though...

Cheers,

Dave

 

[RogerS]

Oddly enough my brother-in-law had exactly the same mouse problem. Do the make the plastic out of mouse food?

I've had a look at wireless and it seems like the only thing that will go that far is wireless-N. Two problems with this....firstly the protocol hasn't even been finalised....secondly most laptops don't come with wireless-N so it would need a dongle. There may be other stuff I haven't read about though...

Cheers,

Dave

Satellite dish in your house. Satellite dish in your workshop. That'll work :wink:

Latency might be a problem.

 

[Anonymous]

Newcastle University and the old Polytechnic used to link to each other via radio waves I think. They had some sort of dishes on the tallest buildings. Maybe I could try that.

 

[RogerS]

I have two spare baked bean cans. All you need to get is a piece of wet string.

 

[chipchaser]

You are probably right about the range unless the hub is at the back of the house and in a favourable position. My Orange Livebox(802.11g) claims up to 30m indoors and 100 to 300m outdoors.

Indoors I get about 75% showing at less than 10m but through two walls and a floor.

Outdoors the signal is just about useable within 5m of the back of the house but doesnt even register at the workshop 40m away. To be fair the livebox is at the front of the house and low down so has to pass through three walls to get "out".

I can see 2 neighbours networks outdoors, both about the same distance from my workshop. A BTHomeHub and a Netgear so maybe their transmitters are stronger or better located.

Tried three wireless adaptors a cheapy (TP-Link) which went back to the shop because it didn't like my Livebox, an Edimax with a little aerial which is ok and a Netgear WG11.2 which seems to work best but was the most expensive.

Regards

Graham

 

[RogerS]

If you have foil-backed Kingspan in your walls then you can kiss goodbye to getting anything wireless outside the house...

..or mobile signals inside the house ..

..or even radio sometimes

 

[Dibs-h]

If you have foil-backed Kingspan in your walls then you can kiss goodbye to getting anything wireless outside the house...

..or mobile signals inside the house ..

..or even radio sometimes

Shame it doesn't stop TV signals leaking out - could tell the BBC where to shove their Fat cats pay\pension contribution (aka TV License fee).

 

[llangatwgnedd]

I will be networking my Humax satellite box when BBC player comes available to Freesat in the autumn, and thought of doing it this way.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=223481&C=SO&U=strat15#features

What’s everyone’s opinion on this method?

 

[RogerS]

I will be networking my Humax satellite box when BBC player comes available to Freesat in the autumn, and thought of doing it this way.

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=223481&C=SO&U=strat15#features

What’s everyone’s opinion on this method?

I've no experience of these. I did try their telephone extenders and they failed to communicate dismally.

 

[flying haggis]

Oddly enough my brother-in-law had exactly the same mouse problem. Do the make the plastic out of mouse food?

I've had a look at wireless and it seems like the only thing that will go that far is wireless-N. Two problems with this....firstly the protocol hasn't even been finalised....secondly most laptops don't come with wireless-N so it would need a dongle. There may be other stuff I haven't read about though...

Cheers,

Dave

with regard to going wireless, most routers have an aerial on the back that can be unscrewed and replaced with something like this

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12dBi-WIFI-WLAN-N ... 286.c0.m14


or this claims to have greater coverage than other devices and its a netgear

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Netgear-DG834PN-A ... 286.c0.m14