Buying some planes.

[Philly]

Who, Col? :?:
Philly

 

[Colin C]

Come on Philly its about buying planes :roll: but if you dont get it, I guess I will have to say or he will be a long soon :wink:

 

[Philly]

Buying planes? Glad I don't have a problem in that area......... :lol:
Philly
Butter would'nt melt...

 

[mahking51]

Nor me.........
Martin

 

[mahking51]

Well, except for this which landed on my doormat with a lovely taxfree thud!

:twisted: :twisted:
Cheers,
Martin

 

[Alf]

Martin, you do know you'll pay for that in an afterlife, don't you? Probably an eternity planing using a Stanley SB3... :lol:

 

[Colin C]

Martin, you do know you'll pay for that in an afterlife, don't you? Probably an eternity planing using a Stanley SB3... :lol:

I did not know that **** was that bad :shock:

Going to sob in the corner as it might be me

 

[Slim]

Well thanks for the plethora of information guys, it will take a little while to digest. But I think the concensus of opinion is that I should go for a couple more expensive planes rather than 3 or 4 cheaper ones.

What will I be using them for?

Well for example, on one of my last projects, I had 3 large panel glue ups. Now jointing and thicknessing isn't a problem as I have the machinery for that. The problem was that the panels were left in the workshop over christmas and new year and when I came back to them, they had bowed slightley. With the tools I had, the only way for me to cure that was by sanding, and it took a long long time.

One of the other reasons I want some planes is for the flatening of glue joints as try as I might I can never get them to glue up completely flush.

Other than that, it looks really satisfying to get curly shavings!

God! Don't push me down the slippery slope... Please
I think I'd better go check my bank balance again!

Keep the opinions coming.
Many thanks

 

[Alf]

Well, Slim, in that case I think you could do worse than follow Mr Charlesworth's example and consider a #5 1/2 or bevel up equivalent. i.e. One expensive plane and really get to grips with it. Should do all you need given the requirements and use of machinery.

Cheers, Alf

 

[Paul Chapman]

One of the other reasons I want some planes is for the flatening of glue joints as try as I might I can never get them to glue up completely flush.

Do you use anything, such as biscuits, loose tongues or dowels to help with the alignment of the boards when gluing up panels? I generally use biscuits but have also used loose tongues and provided the boards are well prepared these can result in the need for very little cleaning up of the joints.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[woodbloke]

:-k :-k ...I wonder if Martin would donate that LN plane to Waka's competition, after all, it would be appropriate recompense for the Waka de Paree thread we all enjoyed so much recently..... :lol:

Already got me coat on and half way out the door - Rob

 

[Slim]

paul,

Yes, I use buscuits. Don't get me wrong they are not far off flat (perhaps 1mm), what I was saying is that it would be nice to be able to flatten them with a few passes of a plane rather than a sander.

 

[Paul Chapman]

Well, except for this which landed on my doormat with a lovely taxfree thud!

I bet that didn't come from a car boot sale, Martin :lol: Very nice 8)

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Paul Chapman]

paul,

Yes, I use buscuits. Don't get me wrong they are not far off flat (perhaps 1mm), what I was saying is that it would be nice to be able to flatten them with a few passes of a plane rather than a sander.

Yes, planing is always much nicer than sanding :wink: As you can see, some of us are fans of the #7 plane whereas others prefer something shorter, like a #5.5. Both would do the job and a lot of it is down to personal preference. I reckon your best bet would be to try to find someone nearby who has both (or visit a show where they do demonstrations) and try them out. It can get quite expensive buying what you think you want and then finding that you should have bought the other one

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Philly]

I can't believe Martin came out with a gratuitous gloat like that - unbelieveable :roll:
I'd never do that. Ever..... :^o
Nice Anniversary, Martin!
Cheers
Philly

 

[Slim]

Ok, I think Ihave made up my mind to go for a single more expensive plane to get me started.

I have just read Alfs review on the veritas bench planes. It looks like it may be veritas I go for as I really can't justify the price of clifton and LN at the moment.

As I mentioned earlier I will probably be using it mostly for flattening panel glue ups.

Which size would you thibk would be best suited to this?

 

[Shivers]

Ok, I think Ihave made up my mind to go for a single more expensive plane to get me started.

I have just read Alfs review on the veritas bench planes. It looks like it may be veritas I go for as I really can't justify the price of clifton and LN at the moment.

As I mentioned earlier I will probably be using it mostly for flattening panel glue ups.

Which size would you thibk would be best suited to this?

why not get a £30 No5 or No6 to start out,theres absolutely nothing wrong with one of those first,i've been in the trade 23+ yrs & used ordinary planes all that time --i used to go to woodworking stores & see all these esoteric brands on offer and i'd see all the nonpro's lusting over them,flattening panels/gluelines is more technique than equipment used.

Sorry but this Fine woodworking mag approach to everything on the forum gets to me.--I mean why have a forum at all when theres fine woodworking mag--rediculous.

 

[Anonymous]

Ok, I think Ihave made up my mind to go for a single more expensive plane to get me started.

I have just read Alfs review on the veritas bench planes. It looks like it may be veritas I go for as I really can't justify the price of clifton and LN at the moment.

As I mentioned earlier I will probably be using it mostly for flattening panel glue ups.

Which size would you thibk would be best suited to this?

A #5 or #5.5

I am surpirsed by your post as Clifton are a lot cheaper than Veritas - and work equally as well (I own both manufacturers planes)

 

[Slim]

Tony,

Veritas no 4 1/2 from rutlands £151.95

Clifton No 4 1/2 from axminster £194.31

 

[Paul Chapman]

John Bullar did a comparison of the Veritas 5 1/4, Clifton 5 1/2 and Lie Nielsen 5 1/2 which was published in 'Furniture & Cabinetmaking'. Its now on his website here http://www.individualfurniture.com/maker/Planes.htm Might help you to make up your mind.

Cheers :wink:

Paul