British Invasion....!

[Mr_P]

How very dare you Custard, Woden better than Sorby, unbelievable and I used to hold you in such high regard.

Have you been drinking at the fountain of Paul Sellars ?

https://paulsellers.com/2014/05/planes- ... work-with/

Joking aside, I do have a very nice Woden woodworkers vice fitted to my bench, which I'm very happy with but my only experience of Woden planes was a later model no.5 and I couldn't sell it quick enough.

 

[Vann]

A British Bailey style brand name you might look out for is Woden. The half dozen or so Woden bench planes that I've used in real world woodworking applications always seemed that tiny bit better than Stanley or Record (or Marples or Sorby come to that)...

I suspect there will be a difference in quality between the early Wodens (when they were an independent company) and later Wodens (when their plane department had been bought by Record and "Woden" was Record's budget line).

I remember how it was the exact opposite in 2005 with the low dollar, I bought lots of stuff from america back then for very cheap...

Don't worry , if Trump gets in the good old days may return (hammer)

Cheers, Vann.

 

[D_W]

We could use a weak dollar policy here for a decade or six, as well as a rollback in regulation. We have a lose lose election coming up, between a blowhard and a career criminal.

But let's save the currency change until after I've bought all of your tools and stones.

The gray stone, by the way, is definitely novaculite. It's harder than the charnley that I had. I wouldn't mind finding one for the shop now.

 

[essexalan]

Prices for named stones on ebay now have gone through the roof way out of my price range. I will have to go and dig my own but I get the feeling there will be a long queue in front of me. Charnleys seem to come in different flavours but they are quite easy to get hold of and a piece I have is quite fast cutting yet leaves a good polished edge.

 

[whiskywill]

We have a lose lose election coming up, between a blowhard and a career criminal.

Are you saying Mr Trump is a career criminal? :?

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Any perm of one from two. :lol:

 

[D_W]

We have a lose lose election coming up, between a blowhard and a career criminal.

Are you saying Mr Trump is a career criminal? :?

If he is, then there are two running.

 

[D_W]

At this point, I'll vote for anyone who can fix Ebay's shipping problem with the global shipping program.

Since October 26, my Sorby jointer has been less than 8 miles away at the depot for the shipper that ebay contracts, but it hasn't moved and there is no contact information given for the shipper.

 

[NickN]

Hope you get it sorted. I've noticed another problem with the GSP is that even for something small like a Stanley blade or knob, shipping is about £20 - I'm not sure how they work it out but it seems extortionate on smaller items relative to weight and size - in the days when sellers priced it themselves it was cheaper, the downside being far fewer items were available to buy overseas.

 

[D_W]

I'd assume that GSP is an economy grade shipping plus a fee for ebay to collect, so on little items, it makes no sense.

On big ones from the UK, they can do better than UK sellers can do unless the UK sellers check a huge variety of couriers. For example, a try plane from a UK dealer cost me 28 pounds to get to here. Some dealers who apparently only get one quote give numbers like 60 or 80 pounds, and GSP on ebay will be anywhere from about 22 to 30 pounds.

The difference, though, is that the dealers outside of ebay will send something that gets here in a week or less. Ebay is misleading by calling their shipping priority international, it's definitely not priority. It is what it is, I suppose. The shipping on the sorby plane was something like 35 pounds, definitely not cheap, but could be worse. A price I'd gladly pay if it actually operated like the priority shipping that it claims to be.

 

[swagman]

We could use a weak dollar policy here for a decade or six, as well as a rollback in regulation. We have a lose lose election coming up, between a blowhard and a career criminal.

But let's save the currency change until after I've bought all of your tools and stones.

The gray stone, by the way, is definitely novaculite. It's harder than the charnley that I had. I wouldn't mind finding one for the shop now.

DW; I tend to think both Charnley Forest and Llyn Idwell Grecian Hones would be better classified as a Chert than Novaculite.

http://www.comparerocks.com/en/chert-vs ... n-24-150-0

Stewie;

 

[essexalan]

Swagman, if you speed read that link you posted then you will find that Novaculite is part of the Chert family and comes in a green colour as well as the various normal varieties from the Ouachita Mountains. Locations include the UK so my guess is that the stones you mention are Novaculite containing perhaps a little more other mineral inclusions than the purest Arkansas stones. I bet there are great piles of the stuff in Oz just waiting to be discovered, hang on they already have!

 

[swagman]

Swagman, if you speed read that link you posted then you will find that Novaculite is part of the Chert family and comes in a green colour as well as the various normal varieties from the Ouachita Mountains. Locations include the UK so my guess is that the stones you mention are Novaculite containing perhaps a little more other mineral inclusions than the purest Arkansas stones. I bet there are great piles of the stuff in Oz just waiting to be discovered, hang on they already have!

Essex; I am not interested in point scoring. I am aware of the connection between Chert and Novaculite.

As a side issue you can view what's happening proactively on another forum. http://straightrazorplace.com/hones/130 ... ulite.html

Some of us are more sincere about making a long term contribution to the knowledge base of forum members.

regards Stewie;

 

[essexalan]

Swagman, if you speed read that link you posted then you will find that Novaculite is part of the Chert family and comes in a green colour as well as the various normal varieties from the Ouachita Mountains. Locations include the UK so my guess is that the stones you mention are Novaculite containing perhaps a little more other mineral inclusions than the purest Arkansas stones. I bet there are great piles of the stuff in Oz just waiting to be discovered, hang on they already have!

Essex; I am not interested in point scoring. I am aware of the connection between Chert and Novaculite.

As a side issue you can view what's happening proactively on another forum. http://straightrazorplace.com/hones/130 ... ulite.html

Some of us are more sincere about making a long term contribution to the knowledge base of forum members.

regards Stewie;

Swagman, not trying to score points at all and I was not aware of your knowledge of the relationship between Chert and Novaculite, obviously you have not read posts made by a lot of forum members more knowledgeable than myself both here and on SRP. As for the sincerity gibe I have no idea what you mean.
Have a good one.

 

[D_W]

....oops, duplicate post.

 

[D_W]

For the Sorby:

"Out for Delivery" Wooo! The local low-cost option for Ebay ("newgistics" shipping partner) uses the term "transferring to USPS" - which is apparently a 6-day activity. As much as I'd like to complain about that, they probably got the bid for the shipping service with Ebay because Ebay looks for the lowest cost provider, and they are probably providing service equal to what they're getting paid.

USPS had the plane out of delivery almost instantly after they got it.

I might not be so happy about paying for the shipping service if it was all royal mail and USPS working in combination (it would probably be at a price that I wouldn't pay).

 

[D_W]

...I also ordered a Record 08 (I can bend my personal rule of keeping one metal jointer to keeping two, at least for a little while) ...i'm pleased enough with the 4s that I'll flatten two old jointers instead of one.

 

[G S Haydon]

A No 8!

 

[D_W]

A No 8!

Yeah, a novelty plane. Sort of like getting a woody jointer in 2 3/4ths width (I've had one of those in the past, and realized it didn't get work done faster than a standard jointer or try plane a quarter inch smaller).

I've had three 8s in the past, two stanleys and a Lie Nielsen 8 (the LN 8 was about 1 1/2 thousandths hollow along its length, which is a real nuisance in an edge jointing plane - especially one as heavy and rigid as that). I sold the two stanley's, both were clapped out, and figured that selling the LN 8 was wiser sold than flattened. I gather most buyers of such things would rather have an untouched plane than a flat one.

I'm sure LN would've entertained my complaints (they will please anyone, top notch), but it was right at the edge of their spec and I didn't think it would be right to ask them to modify something that was basically delivered as advertised.

If I ever had infinite capability, I would manufacture jointer planes where the mouth was one thousandth below the toe and heel.

At any rate, in those and half a dozen 7s, I learned to flatten jointer planes without resorting to lapping the whole plane at once, which is a huge waste of sandpaper and almost fruitless if much work has to be done to a worn plane.

 

[Racers]

I have a Record No8 it's a lovely thing, it's the one on the right. I seems to be flat I daren't check it just encase its out as I would have to flatten it.
It works which is all its meant to do, so I shouldn't worry about it I guess.

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