From reading all the responses it does seem its more a problem with metric nowadays. Surely someone must have came up with a solution :ugeek: id certainly pay £20 + for a tape measure that got over the problem. A spare blank 3 inchs at the beginning with a definite line where the beginning starts and jobs a goodun :lol: if they put the hook on the other way around there'd be no chance of another ballsup waiting around the corner - wouldn't this work .......?