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AndyT":7790t8z7 said:
Some interesting evidence there BB - thanks for sharing. Was there much interest to buy those tools? Did you buy any?

No - there was a LOT of interest, and the chests went for big dough, as they should. I learnt as much as I could from them.

And we've discussed scrub terminology before; here's a picture.

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BugBear
 
Ah, the single iron jack described in Ellis. First time I have seen one, thanks for the link.
 
Jacob":1vwsi6up said:
Corneel":1vwsi6up said:
Yes Jacob, the last one is a real Schrupphobel! ....
I know it is - it says so on the box! (Newish ECE). But I'll still call the other two "scrubs" if nobody minds. They just do a different sort of scrub (slightly wider and shallower) - a lot different from what I'd call a "jack" but very similar to Salaman's picture of a "Bismark".
My home made (by a professional) example has no stub handle behind the blade, but on the ECE model this is a bit too small for my hand so I wear a rigger glove if I'm doing a lot. Might be better without it altogether (as per Salaman's picture).

I don't mind at all how you call them, Jacob. But the Germans have a bit different plane history. From coarse to fine, all their planes are the short "Bismark" type. Schrupphobel is very narrow, single iron, excesive camber. Then comes the Schlichthobel, normal width, less cambered blade, single iron. And then the Doppelhobel, a double iron plane for finer work. The Putzhobel is their smoother, double iron again, often at 49 degrees. When it has an adjustable mouthpiece it is a Reformhobel. Only their jointer (Raubank) is a long plane, but usually shorter then the English jointers.

And all this is just interesting trivia of course.

My Schrupphobel also hasn't got the small "handle" behind the blade. Handschoener (hand saver) they call it. But I don't really miss it. You do tend to slide up over the plane with your hand until the web between thumb and pointing finger touches the iron. A bit painfull at first, but becomes numb enough after a while so you don't feel it anymore.

I rarely use this plane because it is so agressive. But in the video above it saved me several hours of hard work with a foreplane to reduce the thickness of these boards. My foreplane also has quite an agressive camber, but it doesn't compare to the scrub.
 
Interesting.
So the scrub is potentially useful even in a machine shop, with pieces too wide for the planer.
 
Jacob":wbuprl8i said:
Interesting.
So the scrub is potentially useful even in a machine shop, with pieces too wide for the planer.

That's true of all stock preparation planes, surely?

One can handplane a workbench flat, but you'd need a pretty awesome jointer or thicknesser to do it...

BugBear
 
Yes it is true of any plane obviously but the scrub is particularly useful - a bigger potential labour saver than you'd imagine from it's appearance as a crude little lightweight old-fashioned wooden plane.
Yes you can hand plane a bench top but if you do it sensibly with a well you can machine the two beams.
 
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