Am I the only person depressed by the number of comments with gender or racial stereotypes in them?
- Thread starter Peterm1000
- Start date
Help Support UKworkshop.co.uk:
- Status
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
You may have missed a couple of iterations but you've probably added one; "cripples crossing". I'd be very surprised if that was ever used.
I doubt the other terms would offend anybody, if they were relevant to the crossing users.
I think you are exaggerating your distress!
Last edited:
Looking forward to that!
Droogs
Not the Sharpest Moderator in the box
I must admit carving, especially in the round rather than letters, is very much a dark art around the forum as it is something that doesn't get a lot of attention really . Which is a shame as I would love to get some ideas on a notion of how to create carvings for some of the things I would like to make; to supplement my marquetry and inlay. Having an idea of hot to carve something would open up the design possibilities for a lot of us me thinks
doctor Bob
Established Member
- Joined
- 22 Jun 2011
- Messages
- 5,171
- Reaction score
- 1,881
tony blair today
"I am afraid I am of an age where I am now terrified if I can talk about any of these subjects that I am going to say something that I should not say. It is a minefield on virtually everything. If you are of a certain generation, you are not sure what you can or what you can't say. Or whether you can make a joke about something you cannot make a joke, so I will leave it at that"
"I am afraid I am of an age where I am now terrified if I can talk about any of these subjects that I am going to say something that I should not say. It is a minefield on virtually everything. If you are of a certain generation, you are not sure what you can or what you can't say. Or whether you can make a joke about something you cannot make a joke, so I will leave it at that"
The interesting thing about carving is that it's a lot like guitar making (and getting a guitar to sound really good, specifically, not just making one that looks good). I remember a guy who carved some rosewood furniture in an apartment closet over a matter of years. It was spectacular, and his response was that he learned in the closet or at the bench, because that's the only way to carve.
My friend George is a good carver, but not a trade carver (a trade carver probably works faster than he does). He talks about results and design issues in the carvings, but you have to ask a specific question before he talks methods. He is also a savant at drawing and proportion, being able to freehand broad curves in proportion to make drawings to carve. I think that's step one - if you want to carve, you'll just have to carve, but learning to draw or learning proportion to find good drawings (some people will never draw well - I probably won't, either. George spent his childhood tracing books with line drawings of ships which probably has a lot to do with his neural development).
Who is this goerge I speak of?
I don't know who taught him to carve - i'm not sure anyone did directly. He quickly got to the point that he would make the tools that he needed to do certain carvings like the lute rose at the top of this picture.
http://www.cybozone.com/fg/wilson1.html#wilson6
If you can get him to talk at length about anything, though, it's proportion and trying to get certain results or standards.
Very - keeps me entertained.
Look like to me that the chap who started this thread doesnt seem to realise that its a joke its Not called a maliciouse intent to offend its a JOKE are we to be bored to death everywhere we go by Woke morons? Such idiotsseem to be everywhere dont they understand that Really the majority of the human race cant be bothered with them. Blah Blah Blah
Ollie78
Established Member
It's a bit like when I took my son to playgroup when he was small. It was decidedly odd being the only man in there with about 30 mums and 50 odd kids. ( also the only one paying the slightest attention to my child it seemed).
Ollie
Terry - Somerset
Established Member
After retirement I realised why I found work increasingly tedious - the job may be fun and rewarding, the office environment was stultifying.
Almost every area of conversation slowly disappeared from social interaction - politics, religion, economy, ***, etc - for fear that someone may be upset or offended.
End result - the only acceptable topics left were TV trivia and soaps + footie. I didn't watch the former, and had limited interest in the latter.
The over-sensitivity of a few should not inhibit the reasonable behaviour of the many - it needs a compromise.
The Queens speech proposed legisation to ensure universities can no longer so easily "no platform" controversial speakers. Allowing people the right to freely express opinions in a reasonable manner is part of being a mature democratic society.
Almost every area of conversation slowly disappeared from social interaction - politics, religion, economy, ***, etc - for fear that someone may be upset or offended.
End result - the only acceptable topics left were TV trivia and soaps + footie. I didn't watch the former, and had limited interest in the latter.
The over-sensitivity of a few should not inhibit the reasonable behaviour of the many - it needs a compromise.
The Queens speech proposed legisation to ensure universities can no longer so easily "no platform" controversial speakers. Allowing people the right to freely express opinions in a reasonable manner is part of being a mature democratic society.
woodpeckers
Member
I've started a Woodcarving project thread in the Project section
Apparently, of the last 10 000 programmed speakers at universities, six were cancelled for reasons that relate to content. Universities already have legislation to protect freedom of speech. The idea they need government intervention is silly.
Phil Pascoe
Established Member
That's all very well, but the people running the system will just vet the speakers before they're actually invited.
Jacob
What goes around comes around.
It's political.It's part of the same argument going on in this thread about "cancel culture" and so on.
But nobody is obliged to give anyone a platform and the few that were cancelled were for good logistical reasons.
Some speakers were objected to very actively but were still allowed to speak, sometimes with added security.
It's a non issue but being seen to pretend to do something about it will appeal to the right.
Last edited:
This becomes a little bit more sticky when a platform is funded to some extent by tax dollars or is getting a tax break.
Of course, if you disagree with the people they banned, then "it's a non-issue".
Where I went to college, there were a few roving preachers doing what preachers do - standing on sidewalks at a regular basis and saving souls (you get to decide whether you believe they were or not, that's not my bag).
At some point, the university decided that the whole preacher thing was offensive because they would talk about sins of various types and tell folks who didn't believe in JC that they had no path to salvation.
So, they created "Free speech areas" on the campus where free speech is allowed. Of course, none of these areas were where students congregate between classes.
But, "they had good logistical reasons and it's a non-issue"
They also had a Christmas tree at one point in the President's office, along with other cultural Christmas season things. the President decided to declare that there was no budget to set up the Christmas tree, so it would no longer be done. The other items continued. He then blamed it on a volunteer group (called "ambassadors" - college students who gave campus tours for minimum wage - to prospective future students. The ambassadors volunteered to decorate the tree as they had done any prior year, and his response again was "we don't have the budget to decorate the tree".
Lack of grasp of reality or intentional dancing around it reminded me of a poster on here who goes by a name that rhymes with schmakob, but I won't say who it is.
(I actually had no issue at the time with the College not setting up a Christmas tree - it was partially taxpayer funded and that seemed reasonable. What I didn't get too much of a charge out of was their inability to ever tell the reason that they did certain things. Every single message was like a contest to see how ridiculously dishonest they could be).
RobinBHM
Established Member
I find Christmas ads a bit surreal, those ones which show a family at the dining table....and seem to include about half a dozen different ethnicities and religions.
I can see it's meant to be inclusive, but it does make me wonder if such a family exists.
I can see it's meant to be inclusive, but it does make me wonder if such a family exists.
I'd be all for using the actual ones if they want to show them. We've got American and Chinese covered. I don't think that's enough of a combination for them, though.
Phil Pascoe
Established Member
And the father is usually black, the mother white. Not very PC the other way around.
- Status
