Am i going mad

[chippy1970]

i've just bought a new circular saw Metabo ks66 with guide rail after years of using Hitachi c7u which i've had two of. Only thing is now i'm thinking should I have bought the Festool 55 saw it alot more money and do I really need it.

I work for myself and I do cut up a lot of mdf etc to build cupboards but sometimes I work on site where it would be over the top to use the Festool. Trouble is the more I look at Festool the more I want one please let me know if you use Festool are they really that good in use.

The way I look at it to justify buying one is that I payed £300 for my 1/2" dewalt router so paying just a little bit more for the saw isn't too bad is it :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Andy Pullen]

How does the Metabo disappoint you? I am a fan of the C7BU and think it is one of the best all round saws and not only useful when attached to a guide rail but that doesn't stop me from wondering whether I should spend more on something better. That said, after using a firms one at work it didn't have me running to the phone to place an order though that may have been more to do with firms kit usually being abused and blunt. Regards Andy

 

[Mike.C]

Hi Chipp, I have the TS55 and although IMHO it is the best saw on the market, now that you have your Metabo and guide rail I would give that a few weeks of use to see how you get on with it before I went out and bought one, because who knows you might think it 's great.

On the other hand if you really cannot resist getting one, and you think the Festool is as you say over the top for site work you could always use the Metabo there and the Festool when you work else where.

Is the Festool really good in use? Without a doubt. The accuracy is spot on and because of the plunge action dust extraction is near on perfect.

I hope this helps.

Cheers

Mike

 

[Gary]

Sorry to say, but yes it is.

Gary

 

[houtslager]

:? I have both, the small METABO "mosquito" as it was called in Holland when I bought it, much lighter then the Festool version, and I had the Metabo router at the time so it seemed a DFB [damn fine buy 8) ] and the rail could be used with either tool

Latley I needed a saw to cut in 1 go, FIRE doors, = 65mm depth of cut, :roll: and just about at the same time FESTOOL came out with this baby

http://www.festoolusa.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=3&prodid=561188

so I bought it

In comparision, the Festool depth of cut locking system is better, and the Dust extraction on BOTH is very good.

I would reconmend either,if METABO still sold the mosquito.
But alas they don't - so its the Festool , either the TS 55 or TS 75.

HS getting there slowly in OF.

 

[chippy1970]

Cheers guys maybe i should give the metabo a good try first then maybe buy a festool when ive worn it out lol.

Also I would like to say a big thank you to Metabo customer services when I got the saw last week from Protrade it arived with no metal lugs on the plastic runner on the guide rail.

Now they didnt just send me the metal lugs or just the plastic runner they sent me a whole new guide rail and said keep the other one so now I have a 3m guide rail thanks Metabo.

 

[houtslager]

:lol: lucky pipper

 

[Anonymous]

i've just bought a new circular saw Metabo ks66 with guide rail after years of using Hitachi c7u which i've had two of. Only thing is now i'm thinking should I have bought the Festool 55 saw it alot more money and do I really need it.

I work for myself and I do cut up a lot of mdf etc to build cupboards but sometimes I work on site where it would be over the top to use the Festool. Trouble is the more I look at Festool the more I want one please let me know if you use Festool are they really that good in use.

The way I look at it to justify buying one is that I payed £300 for my 1/2" dewalt router so paying just a little bit more for the saw isn't too bad is it :lol: :lol: :lol:

£300 for a Dewalt router? Sounds a lot. My 1/2" Dewalt cost £225

You'll use the Dewalt router a lot. Will you us the circular saw as often?
For a lot of people, the answer to this is no, however for someone making their living cutign up MDF the answer could well be yes.

 

[inventor]

I've used the Festool FS55 + guide rails on site quite a bit, and it's excellent. It's robust. If you're worried about someone stealing it from a site because it's so desirable... then you really do have a dilemma!

 

[chippy1970]

Its the Dewalt 626 the biggest one they do it was £300 a couple of years back now about £269 ish now. I did have a couple of 625's but they were both rubbish so Dewalt exchanged it for the dearer 626 but thats another story.

I have decided to give the Metabo a good try then maybe I might forget all about the festool :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[RinkyDinky]

Festool tools have a knack of being desirable.

I have just bought a Festool Kapex mitre saw and although it cost a fortune to me, it makes you smile when you use it..... :lol:

Still haven't regretted it. Glad i paid extra. :lol:

 

[chippy1970]

Yeah I know what you mean all I know is ive got thousands of pounds worth of gear and if I bought any Festool I would have to buy it all and sell all the gear I have now.

Festool reminds me of the good old days when ELU were around all their stuff was just as well designed and made as Festool and then along came the YELLOW rubbish. lol

 

[dymas]

Festoolitis, or the marks left by a flying object, is a scourge in our part of Mid Wales. Surgeries are full of bewildered men covered in sawdust who have been attacked by their wives.... after they intercepted their card statements and realised that the housekeeping had gone on a white box with some sort of a tool inside.

I suffer badly from the disease and at the moment am nursing a bruise which is nearly as big as the Kapex I have bought last month.

I think I will pull through. I healed reasonably fast after the Domino arrived.

 

[Newbie_Neil]

Festoolitis, or the marks left by a flying object, is a scourge in our part of Mid Wales. Surgeries are full of bewildered men covered in sawdust who have been attacked by their wives.... after they intercepted their card statements and realised that the housekeeping had gone on a white box with some sort of a tool inside.

I suffer badly from the disease and at the moment am nursing a bruise which is nearly as big as the Kapex I have bought last month.

I think I will pull through. I healed reasonably fast after the Domino arrived.

ROTFL. :lol: :lol:

Cheers
Neil

 

[Windmill Man]

Sorry Chippy,
They are that good, use mine every day ,on site, doing commercial refurbs and kitchens. They are fast and accurate, saves loads of time and materials, i reckon my set up paid for its self in under a month. Very, very good bit of kit, worth every penny.

 

[Dan Clark]

Chipp,

As you can see from my signature, I'm a bit biased. Two years ago, I'd never heard of "Festool". Now... Well just look at my sig.

The TS55 + guide rails is the best tool for cutting sheet goods. Bar none. It is solid, has great dust collection with a vac (like the Festool CT22), works well with other parts of the Festool system, and is tough as nails.

When I first bought it, I ripped 6 meter long 46mm thick Microllam beams. (Microllam is like plywood only much thicker and tougher.) Because they had to fit precisely, I had to remove from 3-8mm over the 6 meter span. I used two Festool guide rails connected together. I made a cut, moved the rails, made a cut, move the rails again, and made the final cut.

This is NOT what the relatively small TS55 was designed for, but it made these cuts over and over with a precision of the +/-1mm over the 6 meter length!

And the CT22 DC did a great job of sucking up the dust. Except for once... I was making a cross-cut and noticed dust flying everywhere. I said, "What the #$#!" Then I looked down and noticed that the CT was too far way and I had accidentally pulled out the hose. You have NO idea how nice it is to have Festool dust collection until you pull out the hose!

First time Festool buyers become hardcore Festoolians very quickly. Once you get used to them, your standards change. You quickly take for granted things like a solid feel, great dust collection, good storage containers (systainers), and system interconnectivity.

I can't wait to throw down (vast quantities of money) for a Kapex when it comes here across the pond. Of course the LOML will inflict great bodily harm, but it will be worth it!

Regards,

Dan.

 

[chippy1970]

Guess what I have changed my mind I think I will buy the TS55 I just need to sell my new Metabo ks66 with guide rails ....anyone ... :lol: :lol:

Good on Protrade they did say I could send it back and swap but I dont want all the hassle of re-packaging it all and sending it back but thanks to them anyway.

 

[Vormulac]

Festool stuff is undoubtedly amazing kit and I wish I could afford it, but to be fair, the impressive performance described by Dan is no more than can be achieved with an alternative system (namely the EZ guide system) at a fraction of the price. I'm not going to turn this into yet another Festool vs EZ argument - there are enough of those on the net already, but it should be noted that there are alternatives.

V.