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It's all immaterial now but what do you think happened? 1) An upgrade to the mac changed the network settings & increased the MTU 2) Nationwide changed their bit so a large MTU rate could no longer cope 3) Alice (the ISP) changed it's bit so a large MTU rate could no longer cope It wasn't...

Cracked it!! :P :D :D In Network Prefs>Advanced> Ethernet> set MTU to custom and changed value to 1200. AND IT WORKS Alle bloody lujah. I cannot thank enough all the contributors to this thread. So many people have worked so hard to try and solve this and all the time it was a setting on...

I am not alone and what's more I've found a solution - kind off, see later - that has been used by other users over here http://www.completefrance.com/cs/forums ... wPost.aspx The first page on Page 5 includes a reply from the nationwide that suggests adjusting the MTU rate on the router. The...

OK going back to Mark's earlier question I found the update log and Safari4 was installed 28 June 2009 at 14.31 hrs. Unfortunately searching historical statements is one of the areas I cannot access on the nationwide site, I only see current month. We do not receive paper copies of the online...

Mark, Sagem's own english website does not have a manual, their website has but the screen shots bear no resemblance to what mine looks like. I could email you a zip fil of all the screen shots of mine if you think it might help. Andy

Roger, I do not seem to have a console install log on the clone I made of Tiger etc before I installed Leopard. Andy

Steve, It's a Sagem F@st 3302. Sagem's website does not have the manual and I am struggling to find one elsewhere, strangely they have a user guide in the french website but not the english. The screen grabs and options though bear no resemblance to what I can see here. Mark, yess some sssl...

Mark, is there a log I could check to see when Safari was last updated I could then compare that against my Nationwide statements to see when I last made a transfer. I have not got another router but I hope soon take the mac elsewhere to check it out on a friends internet connection. Steve...

Sorry, I've not responded sooner, i fiddled a bit and lost the internet connection all together. ISP has put me right. Next I have a confession ref the windows laptop. We have just realised the Nationwide page only works when the laptop is connected to the web via the VPN to the wife's company...

What can I try next then? Can I manually configure IP and DHCP or does his have to come from the ISP? It did occur to me that it would be possible for the ISP to upgrade the software in the router without me knowing? If this is true the fact that I last used the Nationwide site successfully on...

Steve, sorry, how to I configure an IP address manually. Can we go down this route before I regress back to Safari 3 and Tiger? Cheers Andy

OK, here's the latest. UbuntuLiveCD loaded on Mac, situation with the 2 known problem sites persist, Natonwide and Just Giving. Nat West works fine. Ubuntu 9.04 and Firefox for Ubuntu 3.0.8 canical 1.0 I guess this proves the problem is ISP/Router related but is not specific to all Https...

For the best view of Paris the Ciel De Paris restaurant at the top of the Montparnasse tower. http://www.cieldeparis.com/ enjoy your trip Andy

Mark, thanks. I am really grateful for the help I am getting with this. Having just had a Skype chat with Roger and from the opinions of Steve and yourself I think I will HAVE to do an erase and install of Tiger which will bring back Safari 3 and see what happens. This evening we will also try...

With ref to the port forwarding on the router. I've found a section called "redirections de ports" - looks as if that could translate to port forwarding. What, if anything needs to be entered Cheers Andy

Steve/Roger I've looked at the firewall in Sys Prefs and can';t see where or how to check port 443. I'll have to work out the french for port forwarding and see what I can see on the router. Meanwhile the bath is leaking.... must dash Andy

Roger, deleted history plist and bookmarks plist etc from library/safari. Renamed safari folder, reloaded imac - no change on NW nor justgiving. Just hangs. Eventuall Justgiving comes back with a Safari can't open the page 'cos the server dropped the connection Java applet J2SE 5.0 32-bit...

Roger, Leopard 10.5.8 Safari 4.0.3 (5331.9) Cheers Andy

FWIW I've just found another site that hangs https://www.justgiving.com, as soon as I get to the point where I would like to donate with credit card, site hangs - fine on the laptop. Https://www.natwest.com works perfectly well Aghhhhhhhhh.... Cheers Andy

Steve, thanks for the offer but postage would be prohibitive. Also the telephone goes via the router too all supplied by the ISP (Alice). I do not think I would get any support from the ISP if I changed the modem to a model not supplied by them. I also have the added problem of all the technical...