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:sick: Wickes have a proper 200L tub with stand on offer for £28. Might just bite the bullet and get that this afternoon, then see what cheap guttering bits I can scrape up. Cheers for help folks.

Oh noes :cry:

Yes, you're right. I agree. Spot on old fella. no wait

I like that :) . It's very good. I've said it before - it's a mad world where we (well, some people anyway) thought the internet was going to save us from the Murdochs and Dacres and every other sh*t eating editorialised journalistic bastid. But it's probably made it worse. Now any t-w-a-t can...

That's very helpful, thank you. I see yer blue plastic tubs at 200L for £10 not far from me on FB Marketplace. Yep, looks like doing something like that. Thank you. I was going to call it an old g-i-ts home but I didn't want to be rude :D .

I've looked at that stuff, seems to require large holes to do properly. Soil is typical loamy soil that we have so often in UK. But I've only got a space half a metre wide between back of shed and fence (same at the sides of shed as well in fact). Was sort of thinking that a soakaway that close...

I shall do that, thank you. I'm seeing cheap second hand guttering and water butts online so I might be able to just do that for a fraction of the cost. Do water butts in the UK fill up in a single downpour with a 10ft x 8ft roof? Presumably one gets rid of the water by just squirting it around...

I don't believe anyone thinks you are. The root of all this thinking seems to spring from narcissism. It's all about you - what they're doing to you, what they're taking from you, how hard you worked, how you're a marker of your definition of success and how anyone who falls short of that must...

I thought the one about the clown journalist and the investment banker running the country was quite a good one myself.

Something tells me that when you see someone working 12 hour shifts for minimum wage you don't fall over yourself congratulating them on their success.

Yes, it's more shed stuff. I've never installed guttering or had to think about it in my life. I've decided my new shed needs it. I want to be as cheapskate as possible. There's an old people's home behind my shed. The nearest building is 30 feet away across grass. I have a fence (I didn't...

Not seeing many opinions here from people who know anything about actually doing this kind of work :D .

Urrrgh. My HR Department. <gag> .

I think this might be a good time to open a discussion about a basic universal wage given to every adult over 18 😃. Sooner or later, there's more automated jobs than people. The argument that more jobs of just a different type will get created and simply replace the lost jobs I think holds no...

Respectfully, physical strength vs "hard physical work" is only half the story. The scenario I described above just required a little bit of coordination and moderately quick movement, no heavy lifting at all. Just couldn't keep up. Breaks your heart.

I'm a manufacturing planner. Looking after lines that are both machine run and hand assembly. An MRP/capacity levelling/routing managing t-w-a-t. I got here via low echelon team leading production cell as well as a few years turn in Quality (no belts , though I do have an NVQ oooh). I have...

I've got some crypto I can sell you?

We'll be the judge of that.

Here's an example of low-pay manual work in the modern age. Maybe they should just work harder. Maybe they should have got more qualified. Only got themselves to blame. Perhaps trickle down economics will serve them. Maybe they should buy shares. I mean, if you complain about being poor, then...