workshop (garage) door

[neilyweely]

I am about to move in to the new house (got told off for saying 'gaff' before). The problem is this - the workshop (single garage - 17' x 7') is at the bottom of the garden, and is 20m away from the house proper. I would like to block up the garage door, as there is a seperate access from the bottom of the garden (the drive to the garage goes down the side of the property via a public driveway) and I shall not be using it as a garage for five or six years. So, I was thinking about bricking it all up, or even boarding it up. Preferably bricks. I have a bricky, but am concerned that I shall be making a rod for my own back with planning permission etc...

So, would I need planning permission to brick up my own garage door? And would I be in danger of never being able to use it as a garage again, ie; council saying 'you had it, you changed it, you lost it!!!'

Anyone know?? And next I'm gonna ask about smashing my way into the outbuildings to extend the kitchen!!!

Truth be told I could do with some divine inspiration here!! Or just a wife who could lay bricks (and looked like winona ryder!!)(or kate moss!)(in fact I'd like a wife who could lay bricks, not one who looks like she does it for a living!!!)

HELP ME PLEASE!

Neil

 

[MikeG.]

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[9fingers]

(in fact I'd like a wife who could lay bricks, not one who looks like she does it for a living!!!)


Neil

Brave talk or foolhardy comment? I hope you have a good secure password to access this site Neil!! :lol: :lol:

Bob

 

[Shultzy]

Neil, the easiest and cheapest way which doesn't involve the council is to bolt the door to the frame (for security) insulate and cover with ply or mdf. This way you can change it back to a garage whenever you like. Remember if you buy any large machines that access would come in useful.

 

[neilyweely]

schultzy

Thanks mate, think that seems to be the plan ATM.
I am going to bolt the door closed, like you said, and then board it all up.
Then it will all be insulated, and the whole thing covered in shiplap, bar the door (obviously)
And the Mrs is lovely really, guess theres just more of her to love!!! but she's mine, and I love 'er!! Ok babe? Read that?

Ok, back to the workshop, any ideas about that silver foil lining stuff, like two layers of foil with bubbles in between. Cheap enough, i hope, and supposed to work well enough for my purposes. I will probly use this AND polystyrene. Will this work ok?

Cheers folks

Neil

 

[MikeG.]

Neil,

I thought you were going to insulate externally?

The bubble-wrap-type insulation, as with all the "thinsulations" I think, needs to be battened-out on the warm side of it......so you actually would save very little space using it. It's efficacy is also highly controversial. The manufacturer's claim it works, but the tester's haven't yet caught up (unless something has happened recently that I haven't seen).

If you are going to insulate internally, and space is important to you, then Kingspan or Celotex is the only sensible answer. These are the most efficient commonly available insulators, and whilst failry pricey, would do a good job with say 45mm boards between 50mm battens planted on your walls.

Mike

 

[neilyweely]

mike

Oh dear, I didn't realise this stuff was used inside the wall. Ok, so I guess I use the polystyrene then? Celotex is going to be a little beyond me ATM, and I really need to get it done. Is the polystyrene stuff OK? Well, I say it's beyond me, I guess I could get some, but it's gonna cost me a coupla hundred quid, and I would rather put that sort of money elsewhere, what I mean is I am on a serious budget.

Mike, you know what's best, if you were on a serious budget, what would you do? You have been right so far!! Money is a concern, but this needs to be done. I could probly stretch to the celotex, but it is gonna mean driving to Herts in the van, and spending more than I planned. I know the philosophy round these parts is to spend as much as you can afford and get over it, but surely there is a cheaper option? TBH I could use bloody straw if it worked!!!! I don't care what it is, second hand stuff would be great, but I dunno if I could get some. I could go to the tip and see what's there (neighbours are gonna love me, aren't they??!!!)

Oh dear, this is gonna hurt, ain't it?

I will wait and see what you think. And go from there, Truth is I don't fancy drivinig all the way to Herts and back (100+ miles round trip!), so will have to cough up for shop prices.

Sorry to be a PITA.

Cheers mate

Neil

(if theres anything stupid in this message- it IS 4.48 am and I cannot see properly!! This is a disclaimer!!)

 

[MikeG.]

Neil,

you'll be OK with polystyrene, but it isn't as good as Kingspan. You won't find enough Kingspan at the dump, I'm afraid!!

If you are within 1 metre of your boundary, that wall will need to be of fireproof material, so polystyrene and feather-edge board are definitely out. More than that and you'll be fine. You'll probably need some building paper over the polystyrene if you are going to fill the battens to the full depth........and you should paint the boards before you nail them to the wall.

Mike