jhwbigley
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Hang on! is that Leeds Art and Design??
John
John
WIP : Tall Storage Unit
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billw
The Tattooed One
jhwbigley":3dr3dsbu said:
Yup. It is indeed.
maltrout512
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Oh :lol: :lol:
jhwbigley
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billw":h004oxm0 said:
thought it looked familiar, i'll be starting there in September
John
woodbloke
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Richard Jones of this parish is there I believe - Robbillw":l91j5pzr said:
jhwbigley
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woodbloke":2lhyd3kn said:
yes, a great person to meet.
John
billw
The Tattooed One
Are you doing a full time course? I probably won't run into you if so as I just do a Monday evening one.
joiner_sim
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Looking good, you got on well with the comp entry so far!
jhwbigley
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billw":3o30d941 said:
yeah full time, cant wait!
John
billw
The Tattooed One
Monday Leeds Update (from Belgium on Tuesday, to keep you on your toes)
The second side panel (as seen in the photos previously) has now been glued up. The cross check showed both diagonals were equal, although using a square showed one of the rails meets the uprights at 90deg and the other one doesn't, but it's not a critical difference.
As a double check, once it was cramped up I laid the first side on the top to see whether the through mortices line up - and I believe that they're as near as damnit, even taking into account the "not quite square" nature of the rails.
I've got the boards ready for the "ceiling" panel (is there a proper name for this?) so they'll get glued up next week and cut down to size once the routing has been done on the frame.
Once that's out the way my next task is the panelling for the back, which is going to involve quite a bit of walnut so that might take a while.
There's 6 weeks left in the term now, so I'm planning my time as follows :-
Week 1. Glue up ceiling panel, route the groove for said panel. Start cutting back panels.
Week 2. Finish cutting back panels and get them glued up. Plane and sand the front and back rails. Cut mortices in F&R rails for the pegs to go.
Week 3. Dry fit carcass and glue together. Start to make pegs.
Week 4. Cut and glue up floor panels, and the blocks on which it'll rest. Continue with pegs.
Week 5. Finish pegs and test fit through mortices. This completes the main carcass of the project which I'll sand down and make good over the summer break.
Week 6. Cut all pieces of timber necessary for the two doors and take it all home to work on out of term time. Hopefully, after buying some tools, I should be in a position to go back at the start of next term ready to glue them up and plane them down so they fit into the carcass.
This should give me enough time to complete the project before the closing date, although the fact I'm going on holiday for two weeks in September might throw a horrible spanner in the works.
The second side panel (as seen in the photos previously) has now been glued up. The cross check showed both diagonals were equal, although using a square showed one of the rails meets the uprights at 90deg and the other one doesn't, but it's not a critical difference.
As a double check, once it was cramped up I laid the first side on the top to see whether the through mortices line up - and I believe that they're as near as damnit, even taking into account the "not quite square" nature of the rails.
I've got the boards ready for the "ceiling" panel (is there a proper name for this?) so they'll get glued up next week and cut down to size once the routing has been done on the frame.
Once that's out the way my next task is the panelling for the back, which is going to involve quite a bit of walnut so that might take a while.
There's 6 weeks left in the term now, so I'm planning my time as follows :-
Week 1. Glue up ceiling panel, route the groove for said panel. Start cutting back panels.
Week 2. Finish cutting back panels and get them glued up. Plane and sand the front and back rails. Cut mortices in F&R rails for the pegs to go.
Week 3. Dry fit carcass and glue together. Start to make pegs.
Week 4. Cut and glue up floor panels, and the blocks on which it'll rest. Continue with pegs.
Week 5. Finish pegs and test fit through mortices. This completes the main carcass of the project which I'll sand down and make good over the summer break.
Week 6. Cut all pieces of timber necessary for the two doors and take it all home to work on out of term time. Hopefully, after buying some tools, I should be in a position to go back at the start of next term ready to glue them up and plane them down so they fit into the carcass.
This should give me enough time to complete the project before the closing date, although the fact I'm going on holiday for two weeks in September might throw a horrible spanner in the works.
billw
The Tattooed One
Quick update
I was flicking through an old copy of Good Woodworking last night and noticed that they were doing a project which used the same hinges that I'm planning on using in mine.
What a stroke of luck! Turns out the hinges need to be flush fitted into the doors and therefore the doors need to be fitted at the point at which the carcass is glued up, whereas I'd planned to do the carcass and then fit the doors afterwards.
This completely shafts my timetable as there's no way I'm going to get the doors finished this side of the summer break. Ho hum. Have also realised the closing date is the end of October, so I'm reckoning on having about 20 hours of work time next term in which to get the whole thing finished. It's going to be tight.
I was flicking through an old copy of Good Woodworking last night and noticed that they were doing a project which used the same hinges that I'm planning on using in mine.
What a stroke of luck! Turns out the hinges need to be flush fitted into the doors and therefore the doors need to be fitted at the point at which the carcass is glued up, whereas I'd planned to do the carcass and then fit the doors afterwards.
This completely shafts my timetable as there's no way I'm going to get the doors finished this side of the summer break. Ho hum. Have also realised the closing date is the end of October, so I'm reckoning on having about 20 hours of work time next term in which to get the whole thing finished. It's going to be tight.
billw
The Tattooed One
According to my latest plan it should have been....
Week 1. Glue up ceiling panel, rout the groove for said panel. Start cutting back panels.
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Well I did glue up the ceiling panel so ticked that off. I didn't rout the groove because when I arrived at college I couldn't resist dry fitting the carcass up, but it was a bit tight and I was half scared of pulling it apart again so I just left it standing (will do photo later this week).
I couldn't cut the back panel as there was no stock large enough in the college stock so I've had to order it. Additionally I need to source some sycamore panels for the doors so I can feel another trip to English Hardwoods coming on as I need to pick up some wood for the next project anyhow.
To compensate for the bits I hadn't do, I skipped forward to Week 6's plan and started cutting bits for the doors. I've got all the horizontal walnut parts planed up, and one of the spalted beech panels. Sadly the other panel I had didn't quite go to plan as it was a smidgeon too thin in a couple of places and I'll need to get another one.
Next week's plan was :-
Week 2. Finish cutting back panels and get them glued up. Plane and sand the front and back rails. Cut mortices in F&R rails for the pegs to go.
I'm not convinced I'll manage the back panels in their entirety, but I should manage to get the front and back rails sorted out and if the morticer doesn't take hours to set up I should be able to those done too. Given I can't spend time gluing up the carcass this term that will affect my week 3 plan, and instead I'll concentrate on getting the doors made.
Week 1. Glue up ceiling panel, rout the groove for said panel. Start cutting back panels.
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Well I did glue up the ceiling panel so ticked that off. I didn't rout the groove because when I arrived at college I couldn't resist dry fitting the carcass up, but it was a bit tight and I was half scared of pulling it apart again so I just left it standing (will do photo later this week).
I couldn't cut the back panel as there was no stock large enough in the college stock so I've had to order it. Additionally I need to source some sycamore panels for the doors so I can feel another trip to English Hardwoods coming on as I need to pick up some wood for the next project anyhow.
To compensate for the bits I hadn't do, I skipped forward to Week 6's plan and started cutting bits for the doors. I've got all the horizontal walnut parts planed up, and one of the spalted beech panels. Sadly the other panel I had didn't quite go to plan as it was a smidgeon too thin in a couple of places and I'll need to get another one.
Next week's plan was :-
Week 2. Finish cutting back panels and get them glued up. Plane and sand the front and back rails. Cut mortices in F&R rails for the pegs to go.
I'm not convinced I'll manage the back panels in their entirety, but I should manage to get the front and back rails sorted out and if the morticer doesn't take hours to set up I should be able to those done too. Given I can't spend time gluing up the carcass this term that will affect my week 3 plan, and instead I'll concentrate on getting the doors made.
billw
The Tattooed One
I realised that it wasn't going to plan when I noticed this thread had dropped to page 6!
Term's now over and I haven't got access to doing anything towards my project until Sept 28th. Over the past few weeks I've managed to make one door and crack one of the uprights on the other door, so I need to make a new one.
I've got all the pieces cut for the back panel, but not had time to put them through the spindle moulder as I want to lap them. In fact, aside from the fact I have to cut another piece for the door, all the pieces of wood I need to finish the project are pretty much ready for gluing and then cutting to size before dry fit.
In all honesty, I think my hunt for the prize is well and truly over. I need a lot of help from the tutors and that is unlikely to be available in the first weeks of term as there will be plenty of people who need assistance and it would be unfair to expect a large proportion of their time for myself.
Stuff that still needs doing :-
1. back panel lapping and gluing up, then cut to size
2. top panel cutting to size, frame routing to fit panel in
3. first door gluing up
4. second door made and glued
5. floor cut to size and resting blocks putting in place
6. door hinges fitting
7. through mortices for pegs in cross rails
8. pegs finishing and fitting
9. door handles making
10. all the cracked pieces gluing back on
11. full dry fit
12. gluing up
13. apply finish
I hereby officially withdraw from the competition
The one upside of all of this is that I have decided over the course of the next 12 months to fully kit out a home workshop so I can devote a lot more time to being able to practice my hobby!
Term's now over and I haven't got access to doing anything towards my project until Sept 28th. Over the past few weeks I've managed to make one door and crack one of the uprights on the other door, so I need to make a new one.
I've got all the pieces cut for the back panel, but not had time to put them through the spindle moulder as I want to lap them. In fact, aside from the fact I have to cut another piece for the door, all the pieces of wood I need to finish the project are pretty much ready for gluing and then cutting to size before dry fit.
In all honesty, I think my hunt for the prize is well and truly over. I need a lot of help from the tutors and that is unlikely to be available in the first weeks of term as there will be plenty of people who need assistance and it would be unfair to expect a large proportion of their time for myself.
Stuff that still needs doing :-
1. back panel lapping and gluing up, then cut to size
2. top panel cutting to size, frame routing to fit panel in
3. first door gluing up
4. second door made and glued
5. floor cut to size and resting blocks putting in place
6. door hinges fitting
7. through mortices for pegs in cross rails
8. pegs finishing and fitting
9. door handles making
10. all the cracked pieces gluing back on
11. full dry fit
12. gluing up
13. apply finish
I hereby officially withdraw from the competition
The one upside of all of this is that I have decided over the course of the next 12 months to fully kit out a home workshop so I can devote a lot more time to being able to practice my hobby!
woodbloke
Established Member
billw":3iio64hx said:I hereby officially withdraw from the competition
The one upside of all of this is that I have decided over the course of the next 12 months to fully kit out a home workshop so I can devote a lot more time to being able to practice my hobby!
Whilst I said that I wouldn't comment on any of the WIP threads, I think that one is appropriate here. Commiserations on withdrawing from the Competition and I hope to see the piece completed in your 'shop at home later on - Rob
Ironballs
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Bill - if you decide you want to spring any bits of your piece from the college store over the summer and work on it then you're welcome to come and abuse my facilities. Granted you have to maneuver around the cobra, but there's plenty of bits of kit and enough for you to work your piece.
I can provide tea as long as you provide biscuits and beer :wink:
Might also help you make a few choices about your workshop and kit - number one being don't share it with a car
I can provide tea as long as you provide biscuits and beer :wink:
Might also help you make a few choices about your workshop and kit - number one being don't share it with a car
billw
The Tattooed One
Cheers Damian, however I am quite looking forward a few weeks off and will probably relish the challenge of getting the damned thing finished when I get back in September!
Either way, the beer sounds a plan if you're at a loose end!
Either way, the beer sounds a plan if you're at a loose end!
billw
The Tattooed One
woodbloke":2ajdw73d said:
You're not the only one hoping to see it finished :lol:
billw
The Tattooed One
Ho Hum - long time no speak huh?
This term I've made some pretty good progress - the piece now looks like this
All the side panels are now on, and my to-do list has been reduced to :-
1.Add a couple of narrow strips to each side of some of the door panels because I brilliantly cut them too narrow by about 4mm
2.Glue up the doors, and fill up the gaps.
3. route the groove for the top panel
4. fit the stop blocks on which to rest the floor panel
5. through mortices for the pegs
6. fit hinges to doors
7. make pegs and door handles
After that little lot it'll be ready for a full dry fitting.
ps just realised I've missed out a lot of sanding and finishing touches, but they go without saying, i.e. I'm trying to pretend I don't have to do them!
This term I've made some pretty good progress - the piece now looks like this
All the side panels are now on, and my to-do list has been reduced to :-
1.Add a couple of narrow strips to each side of some of the door panels because I brilliantly cut them too narrow by about 4mm
2.Glue up the doors, and fill up the gaps.
3. route the groove for the top panel
4. fit the stop blocks on which to rest the floor panel
5. through mortices for the pegs
6. fit hinges to doors
7. make pegs and door handles
After that little lot it'll be ready for a full dry fitting.
ps just realised I've missed out a lot of sanding and finishing touches, but they go without saying, i.e. I'm trying to pretend I don't have to do them!
jhwbigley
Established Member
billw":gk08baxh said:Ho Hum - long time no speak huh?
This term I've made some pretty good progress - the piece now looks like this
All the side panels are now on, and my to-do list has been reduced to :-
1.Add a couple of narrow strips to each side of some of the door panels because I brilliantly cut them too narrow by about 4mm
2.Glue up the doors, and fill up the gaps.
3. route the groove for the top panel
4. fit the stop blocks on which to rest the floor panel
5. through mortices for the pegs
6. fit hinges to doors
7. make pegs and door handles
After that little lot it'll be ready for a full dry fitting.
ps just realised I've missed out a lot of sanding and finishing touches, but they go without saying, i.e. I'm trying to pretend I don't have to do them!
saw it the other day, its looking good.
now who got glue all over my bench :x
JHB
