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Alf":tacvyteg said:
Must admit, like Paul, I don't much like the skates-as-cutter-holder design either.

In my view there are two really good features of the Stanley #45/Record #405 blade-holding bolt system. It not only allows you to slide the moveable skate under the blade, but it also allows more precise positioning of the blade on the right-hand skate, thereby enabling you to position the blade so that it is exactly in line with the skate or slightly outside it :wink:

Cheers,

Paul
 
Alf":2qv3blw6 said:
Vormulac":2qv3blw6 said:
Hi Alf,

I've bought a Lewin
Oh lawks, what have I done... :oops:

Don't worry about it Alf, if I don't get on with it, big deal! It's a learning curve and it's fun - nothing ventured ... and all that :)

Looking forward to having a fiddle with it - intact or not!

V.
 
Alf":2zty469i said:
Jake, I've looked at my (apparently) pre-1910 #50 and I have miniscule cupping but in an acceptable way - out at the cutter but in (by about 0.5mm as the very maximum) fore and aft. Older plane with heavier casting? Better made? Made while they still remembered why they did it a certain way? I don't know.

Cheers, Alf

You'd know the dates better than me. Quality etc. I'm not even shore what years mine are. Agree though its probably something to do with the casting. Feel the record 50 designers nailed it though. The one I have doesn't cup or even hint of it.....just looks tougher than the stanleys. Which I like. But then the blade doesn't naturally sit flat on the bed :roll: (got to hold it down with a finger at bind up, to get the daylight out)

As for if its acceptable or not. Does it plough freely when all skates and fence parallel (using callipers eh) ? .... thats what really comes down to I suppose.

When you bind a blade up and lay a ruler along, like I did in that picture above, does the blade corner touch the ruler as well ? If it doesn't, even if its real small, like .1mm, the plane just won't work, or will be sluggish to push. And thats just no good. Planing should be free and easy going.

I agree completely with Paul on the #45. The clampups better. You can wiggle the blade around a bit so its just right etc. That #50 design seems a little too ambitious eh.

Of all the clampups I think the #55's the best though. (if I can describe it). On the #45's second skate theres a catchment edge that binds the blade.....means you cant protrude the blade outside as you like.

The #55's sliding skate doesn't have this catchement edge(if thats what you call it :lol: )....its handy to be able to slide the skate where ever you like I feel.

Night. Must go to bed. What am I doing ? 3 in the morning and on the computer. :roll:
 
Jake Darvall repeatedly":1sjjvmg7 said:
Jake, I thought you were a true blue Aussie, not a Canadian, eh? :lol:

Anyway, yeah deciding whether it ploughs well is, erm, problematic. I was forcibly reminded why I didn't use the darn thing - the cutter slips backwards all the time. :roll: It's something I will solve (maybe even soon) but not at the moment. The blade does touch the rule though - it works in that respect.

Cheers, Alf
 
Is there anybody making plough (alias 'plow') planes now. LV, LN, ....?? Surely it is time some of the current innovative manufacturers turned their attention to this.

-ger-
 
Steve Knight springs to mind. Been mutterings at LN about something for a while, but you never know when a rumour will become a reality - or just never materialise at all. I don't doubt that LV have seen the same gap in the hand tool arsenal too. Time, as they say, will tell. Only trouble I can see is price, so maybe if we start saving now... :D

Cheers, Alf
 
It seem like a stupid question but what is the difference between the #55 and the #45 as I have not had the chance to try them :)
Yet :roll:
 
Colin C":481w7oat said:
I guess I have some reading to do :D

You could also read up some of Jake Darvall's stuff on the Aussie forum - he can tell you how to get them to work really well :D

Cheers :wink:

Paul
 
Alf":2ibemh37 said:
Serves me right for the boneshaker joke. :oops: :lol:

That'll teach you :lol: (Actually, I had to laugh when I saw your joke - if you'd seen some of my times when I was racing you'd realise why :oops: :lol: )

Cheers :wink:

Paul
 
Alf":1gc4ieec said:
Jake Darvall repeatedly":1gc4ieec said:
Jake, I thought you were a true blue Aussie, not a Canadian, eh? :lol:
:? eh ? well, actually I am Canadian.

Alf":1gc4ieec said:
Anyway, yeah deciding whether it ploughs well is, erm, problematic. I was forcibly reminded why I didn't use the darn thing - the cutter slips backwards all the time. :roll: It's something I will solve (maybe even soon) but not at the moment. The blade does touch the rule though - it works in that respect.

Cheers, Alf

Oh good. But wonder why it slips....I've yet to come accross that problem. The only thing I can think of is, that the wing nuts not tightened up properly. Maybe the unthreaded shank of the bolt that the wing nuts riding on is protruding out, such that it feels tightened but isn't really. But thats a guess. Have to see for myself to really have a chance at solving that one.

The 50's seem definelty more troublesome though , than other planes EH ! :lol: :wink:
 
Jake Darvall":ddlbi2pv said:
Alf":ddlbi2pv said:
Jake Darvall repeatedly":ddlbi2pv said:
Jake, I thought you were a true blue Aussie, not a Canadian, eh? :lol:
:? eh ? well, actually I am Canadian.
#-o Gads, I'm doing well in this thread, aren't I? I'm in a rush, so I'll come back to the 50 anon...

Cheers, Alf
 
Alf":23ybwcxt said:
Jake Darvall":23ybwcxt said:
Alf":23ybwcxt said:
Jake Darvall repeatedly":23ybwcxt said:
Jake, I thought you were a true blue Aussie, not a Canadian, eh? :lol:
:? eh ? well, actually I am Canadian.
#-o Gads, I'm doing well in this thread, aren't I? I'm in a rush, so I'll come back to the 50 anon...

Cheers, Alf

:oops: I was just joking again, sorry, pulling ya leg..... I'm true blue....ozzie, ozzie , ozzie...oi, oi, oi etc :roll: ...um, put a shimp on the barbie.....um,um gday mate.... Give us a home among the gum trees, with lots of plum trees,,,,,a sheep or two and a kangaroo,,,,,clothes line out the back !.....veranda out the front, and an ollllllllld rockiiiiiiing chaiiiiiiir. :? yum, yum, pigs bum....bloody ozzies. no wonder you poms think we're so uncooth. :lol: :wink: (dont take any notice of me Alice) eh.
 
Half way to the car boot I though "Hmm, I wonder if he was joking...?"

Just wheel me in a corner and leave me to my own devices someone, before I say anything else stoopid. #-o

Cheers, Alf
 
Alf":2h36r420 said:
Half way to the car boot I though "Hmm, I wonder if he was joking...?"

Just wheel me in a corner and leave me to my own devices someone, before I say anything else stoopid. #-o

Cheers, Alf

You didn't say anything stupid I think. I certainly did though :lol: got a bit tipsy last night. please excuse.

So, tell me about that 'car boot'....... do you mean like the flea markets ? ..... we have car boot market here too.
 
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