Veritas Angle setting gauge

[mikebarnes0_0]

Can anyone explain how the Veritas Angle Setting Gauge (the elliptical shaped gauge)
works?

I have the Veritas Grinder Tool Rest & the Angle-Setting Gauge. I cannot understand the
instructions for “setting the tool rest angle”. The instructions say “set the table to touch at
1/2 the thickness of the blade”.

My question is, what are the measuring points.
Mike

 

[jonbikebod]

Not used one Mike but it sounds like the bevel of the blade where it touches the grindstone should be the point about half way along the bevel where the blade is half its full thickness?
Jon.

 

[George_N]

If you mean the diamond shaped thing that comes with the tool rest, I binned mine pretty quickly...couldn't get on with it at all. I bought the Tormek Pro-anglemaster instead. At £11 it's not too dear and so easy to use. Veritas kit is usually top class, and the grinder tool rest is great, but the angle setter is definitely not up to the standard we have come to expect from them.

 

[mikebarnes0_0]

Thanks for that. My sentiments entirely! I eventually found Lee Valley = Veritas and the reply I got did not improve accuracy. Can the Tormec be used with the Veritas Tool Rest?

 

[George_N]

Thanks for that. My sentiments entirely! I eventually found Lee Valley = Veritas and the reply I got did not improve accuracy. Can the Tormec be used with the Veritas Tool Rest?

I use the Tormek anglemaster with a cheap frinder and a Veritas grinder tool rest...works great. HTH

 

[mikebarnes0_0]

Thanks for that.
Where can I gind a cheap frinder?

 

[George_N]

Thanks for that.
Where can I gind a cheap frinder?

OOps

 

[bugbear]

Not used one Mike but it sounds like the bevel of the blade where it touches the grindstone should be the point about half way along the bevel where the blade is half its full thickness?
Jon.

Yes - having quickly read the instructions on the LV web site, you're just using the gauge as a proxy for the chisel. The gauge (of course) already has a bevel at the target angle. Since a round wheel can only approximate a bevel angle (since it grinds hollow) the aim is the get the bevel "accurate" at the centre (averaging out the errors at each end of the bevel).

To achieve this you need to know where on the gauge the centre line of the chisel falls.

The application of the gauge involves judging when the gauge is tangential to the wheel.

BugBear

 

[mikebarnes0_0]

Not used one Mike but it sounds like the bevel of the blade where it touches the grindstone should be the point about half way along the bevel where the blade is half its full thickness?
Jon.

Yes - having quickly read the instructions on the LV web site, you're just using the gauge as a proxy for the chisel. The gauge (of course) already has a bevel at the target angle. Since a round wheel can only approximate a bevel angle (since it grinds hollow) the aim is the get the bevel "accurate" at the centre (averaging out the errors at each end of the bevel).

To achieve this you need to know where on the gauge the centre line of the chisel falls.

The application of the gauge involves judging when the gauge is tangential to the wheel.

BugBear

Makes much more sense and is much easier to understand than the Veritas instructions. Thank you!
I am cosidering the Tormek jig but it looks as though the wheel guard has to be removed.