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bonny

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Hi all,i am currently in the process of buying a sealey 6 speed lathe.
What i would like to know is that is it a good one for a complete beginner.
I have done a fair bit of woodworking over the last few years and i really want to have a go at turning.The lathe is on ebay but there is only an hour or so left on it.
Any quick help would be great
Thank you. :oops:
 
I'd pass on it. The single tube is a pain to keep in line, plus the locking handles are a joke. It will make a piece of wood go round, but you should forget about accuracy or reasonable tolerances. If it was a car, it would be a clapped-out Lada. :(

Ray.
 
I have to agree with Ray, it's probably why they are selling it...
 
Thanks for that chaps,could you recommend a nice lathe that will be ok for a beginner and will do the the job when i get more experience.I did read that i would be better buying the biggest and best that i could afford instead of getting a cheap one,only to change it a few months down the line.
Thanks again :D
 
How big is your budget ?

The Perform CCBL at Axminster is excellent value
Click here to see it.

And welcome to the forum :D

Andrew
 
bonny":2rfd18dx said:
I did read that i would be better buying the biggest and best that i could afford instead of getting a cheap one,only to change it a few months down the line.
That's good advice - a machine that you can "grow into." One or two basics first:

You can turn small stuff on a large lathe, but not the other way round.
There is no substitute for weight - the heavier your lathe is, the more stable it will be (and there are things you can do to improve stability too).
The lathe is only the starting point. Next comes the tools and accessories, which is where the slope starts to get a bit slippery.
Tools must be sharp, so a sharpening system will be required - only a couple of the turning tools are flat.
The work needs to be held firmly in a way that it can be easily accessed - that often (but not exclusively) means a chuck. Scroll chucks are the "friendliest" - and often the most expensive. Get one that uses an insert system - that way, if you change lathes way down the line, the chuck will migrate for the cost of a new insert if the thread is different.

Lathes with cast beds are inherently the most stable, generally speaking. There is a vast range of these machines now available, many from the far east. Look for around 1000mm (39") between centres and a swing over the bed of around 410mm (16"). A variable speed motor has the advantage of being finely adjustable to "tune out" resonance in an unbalanced piece, as well as to vary the operating speed easily. I would look for a machine with a belt/pulley drive shaft and an electronically-variable speed controller. A swivelling headstock increases the flexibility of bowl and platter turning.

The Perform CCBL(as mentioned by Powertool) is quite well specified - could do with a little more power probably. The Perform CCL is similar, just a bit less sophisticated. Either would make a good lathe to start with and give you the opportunity to grow into some fairly large turned items.

Turning is a lot like photography - there are those who swear by Canon, Nikon, Pentax, etc. and wouldn't use anything else. I'm delighted with my lathe (Hegner, probably not a beginner's machine) and would thoroughly recommend it, but there will be almost as many opinions as there are turners, so get ready for some more of those! :)

Ray.
 
I totally agree that you would soon outgrow a cheap lathe, I'm no expert here but I use a Record CL2 and altough it's nowhere near as good as some that are used here I've found it a very good workhorse and will cope with all I throw at it...

I bought it from Yandles a few years back I was told it was an export version as it had a three quater horse motor instead of a half and the cover that covered the gears didn't have a locking mech. I think I paid about £250 for it...

I think for the money Record lathes seem quite good I had to buy a chuck and first bought Axminsters own version but it wasn't running true so I took it back and tried two others on their lathe and none were running true?

I then went to Yandles again and bought a Record version and it ran true as a die...

Hope this helps a bit

Lee
 
Buy the best you can afford and space will allow. Remember you will need some chisels and a chuck although the last is not essential it makes woodtruning more fun and easier. Allow £60.00 to £100.00 for 6 HSS chisels try and buy a good brand Crown and Hamlet are mid prices and good quality and if you buy a cheaper lathe buy a chuck that you can change the fitting in so if you change you lathe down the road you only need get a new chuck fitting.

With lathes you get what you pay for, if your serious go the whole hog and get electronic variable speed but you will pay £800 up wards. you can get mechanical variable or stepped speed (expanding pulley system) or you can have between 3 and 8 fixed speeds via belt change. The main problems with the cheaper lathes is the quality of the motors and locking handles. The locking handles tend to be weak and wear quickly, cheap enough to replace with decent ones if thats all the problems you have. Some of the cheaper lathes have inferior quality motors and starter capacitors on them, sometimes its a bit of a lottery and you can get a good one or a bad one from the same company. These lathes after 6 months or so struggle to start and require a manual spin others just fail. Usually its a capacitor that needs to be replaced. The worst ones seem to be the motors with black casing from China the aluminium ones seem to fair better. From experience it has happened to several people and customers I know of on a range of brands - Sealey, SIP, Draper, Perform, Fox all seem to suffer from this on their cheaper lathes.

If you can spend £500 up wards on a lathe and get one that will last you a good few years.
 
Thanks fellas,all help is appreciated.
ps luckily i was outbid on the sealy. :D
 
Just keep your eyes peeled on e-bay Bonny. I managed to buy a virtually brand new Record swivel head lathe off there for just £72! It still had 41/2 years warranty left on it too! :wink:
 
Just found a Kinzo 370w 1000m wood lathe on e bay.I searched for it on the net to find out a bit about it but with no luck.
Anybody know anything about it. :) ,it is supposedly brand new in the box but the box does look a bit old.
Thank you.
 
is this one any good for a beginner,on ebay,buy it now 169 + 14 postage.

NEW SIP 01360 VARI-SPEED SWIVEL HEAD WOOD TURNING LATHE

Thanks chaps and chapesses :roll:
 
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