Trend Mortice and Tennon Jig ?
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mister henderson
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I had one for a while, I was rather disappointed and sold it. Might just have been me though
StevieB
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Erm, two I would have thought - cutting a mortice and cutting a tennon....
Sorry, couldn't resist :wink:
Havent used one but watched a demo at D&M tools show, looked a good piece of kit for what it is but a dedicated morticer would be easier to use I think. Depends on your useage in terms of timber size I guess as to cut the tennon its placed on the end of the rail.
Steve.
beech1948
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Hi all,
Lets get my bias out of the way first.
Trend and Leigh jigs seem to be very expensive jewellery for woodworkers. They sort of do the job but lack flexibility on size and length for me. I wonder who these are aimed at and what level of skill is being lost.
I suggest ( thats all...don't shoot me) you consider either a dedicated morticer...ebay s/h are often cheap...my Delta top of the range model cost £75.
OR consider what you are able to do with a jig and a router and there are many many plans for free jigs on the internet or look here for a splendid and cheap version which is much better than Trend/Leigh.
[/url]http://www.patwarner.com/ OR just a big strong pig sticker and a tenon saw...I wonder why its called that ?? regards Alan
Lets get my bias out of the way first.
Trend and Leigh jigs seem to be very expensive jewellery for woodworkers. They sort of do the job but lack flexibility on size and length for me. I wonder who these are aimed at and what level of skill is being lost.
I suggest ( thats all...don't shoot me) you consider either a dedicated morticer...ebay s/h are often cheap...my Delta top of the range model cost £75.
OR consider what you are able to do with a jig and a router and there are many many plans for free jigs on the internet or look here for a splendid and cheap version which is much better than Trend/Leigh.
[/url]http://www.patwarner.com/ OR just a big strong pig sticker and a tenon saw...I wonder why its called that ?? regards Alan
Dave S
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Tarkin made one - see this thread
Unfortunately, as so often with older posts, the pictures are gone. I'm pretty sure I have it in my Firefox scrapbook at home, though.
To be honest, there are so many mortice and tenon jigs ideas/plans around, I can't see the appeal of buying one. You are aware that several options exist if you get the SRK for your EZ rails?
Dave
Unfortunately, as so often with older posts, the pictures are gone. I'm pretty sure I have it in my Firefox scrapbook at home, though.
To be honest, there are so many mortice and tenon jigs ideas/plans around, I can't see the appeal of buying one. You are aware that several options exist if you get the SRK for your EZ rails?
Dave
wizer
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My only issue with building a jig is that it requires the sort of precision I am not likely to achieve. Plus to have the convenience of angled work. I have seen the EZ method, but not seen much detail as to how it is put together. Shame that tarkin thread is missing the pics.
OPJ
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Alternatively, WiZeR, you could use the depth-stop on your mitre saw to cut the shoulders - any angle, of course - and rip the cheeks to size on the bandsaw. 
Or, you could have a look at Steve Maskery's jigs. They're probably available on the forums somewhere, as well as both his DVDs, of course.
Or, you could have a look at Steve Maskery's jigs. They're probably available on the forums somewhere, as well as both his DVDs, of course.
Pete Robinson
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I have a few of Trends jigs, M & T, Router lathe, Oval & circle cutting jigs and find they ALL suffer the same common fault:- Lack of quality!!
The concept of all their jigs is brilliant but sadly they have made something that could have been so good SUB STANDARD and its a real shame, I suppose they are trying to keep costs to a minimum and produce something affordable but I am afraid I am now very reluctant to buy their stuff simply for this reason.
The concept of all their jigs is brilliant but sadly they have made something that could have been so good SUB STANDARD and its a real shame, I suppose they are trying to keep costs to a minimum and produce something affordable but I am afraid I am now very reluctant to buy their stuff simply for this reason.
Mike.C
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Pete Robinson wrote,
I wouldn't say all of their jigs are like that. Their Pivot Frame Jig is pretty good as is their router lathe (for basic turnings anyway).
Cheers
Mike
I wouldn't say all of their jigs are like that. Their Pivot Frame Jig is pretty good as is their router lathe (for basic turnings anyway).
Cheers
Mike
Above Wizer is my homemade morticing jig. Okay, so I had sheets of Paxolin and some alli sections but even buying it all it would be a lot less than the Trend, for example. The screw clamp belongs with my chop saw. The various knobs came from scrap photo tripods and furniture. I have cut literally hundreds of mortices with it. Setting up time is a few minutes and after that seconds to cut most slots.
I cut the tenons on my table saw using this jig, again, home made.
Steve Maskery
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Wizer
Do you have a tablesaw? And have you seen British Woodworking 5? If so, can I urge you to try the tenoning jig in this issue? It really is the best thing I've ever developed. I know the basic idea is not original, but the use of it is, I think, and, after years of cutting tenons accurately with my router and bandsaw, and being very happy with the results, I'm now using the tablesaw jig. There is a bit of extra work to do on the bandsaw, removing the short shoulders, but as far as the cheeks are concerned (which are the hard bits to get right) this jig is second to none. That's why I have rather arrogantly called it the Ultimate Tablesaw Tenon Jig! I'm seriously considering filming it and selling it as a download.
If you need a copy of the mag, email [email protected]
Of course if you've already seen it and don't like it, move along...
Olly
Thanks for the plug!
Cheers
Steve
Do you have a tablesaw? And have you seen British Woodworking 5? If so, can I urge you to try the tenoning jig in this issue? It really is the best thing I've ever developed. I know the basic idea is not original, but the use of it is, I think, and, after years of cutting tenons accurately with my router and bandsaw, and being very happy with the results, I'm now using the tablesaw jig. There is a bit of extra work to do on the bandsaw, removing the short shoulders, but as far as the cheeks are concerned (which are the hard bits to get right) this jig is second to none. That's why I have rather arrogantly called it the Ultimate Tablesaw Tenon Jig! I'm seriously considering filming it and selling it as a download.
If you need a copy of the mag, email [email protected]
Of course if you've already seen it and don't like it, move along...
Olly
Thanks for the plug!
Cheers
Steve
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Wizer
As a mortise and tenone jig, the WoodRat takes a lot of beating, and can do many other things too. No contest when compared to Trend M&T jig and I suspect the FMT too
As a mortise and tenone jig, the WoodRat takes a lot of beating, and can do many other things too. No contest when compared to Trend M&T jig and I suspect the FMT too
andycktm
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Mr Free seems to do ok with it!
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Steve, I just had another look at your article. I guess it could be adapted to fit on the Triton fence. Although the Triton does not have a standard mitre slot and I'm not too sure about it's accuracy, especially for a task like this.
Digit, they look like very nice jigs. As I said above, I'm a bit wary of spending time on a jig that may, through my idiocy, turn out useless. I haven't completely discounted it yet.
Tony, the woodrat was next on my list of commercial jigs to look at. I'm going to have a browse on Aldel's site and see what it's all about.
Andy, it's probably worth noting that David Free was almost certainly given that jig for filming purposes. Who knows whether he has used it since?
Digit, they look like very nice jigs. As I said above, I'm a bit wary of spending time on a jig that may, through my idiocy, turn out useless. I haven't completely discounted it yet.
Tony, the woodrat was next on my list of commercial jigs to look at. I'm going to have a browse on Aldel's site and see what it's all about.
Andy, it's probably worth noting that David Free was almost certainly given that jig for filming purposes. Who knows whether he has used it since?
andycktm
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Agree 100% wizer,still seemed to work ok on the program
Steve Maskery
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WiZeR
I'm reading your posts and I'm wondering what your problem is. I don't mean that nastily or in any other negative way, I assure you, I just wonder what your problem is.
You have lots of options, ranging from free plans on the internet, to paid plans, to ready made commercial jigs. So you are not short of options, are you? And you are considering buying jigs, so money per se is not the issue, am I right? You just want a solution that works for you.
So, given the above, I just wonder where you are getting stuck. In my experience ALL jigs have weaknesses as well as strengths, and that is true of mine as much as any others. Indeed, that's why I've published 3 different tenon jigs! They are all good their way, and they all have their limitations. I'm sure the same is true of all the others, whether they are free plans on the internet or ready-made commercial jigs.
Perhaps we would get further with this if you could explain exactly where you are getting stuck with the options already before you.
Please don't take offence with this, none is intended and I've had a crap day already
Steve
I'm reading your posts and I'm wondering what your problem is. I don't mean that nastily or in any other negative way, I assure you, I just wonder what your problem is.
You have lots of options, ranging from free plans on the internet, to paid plans, to ready made commercial jigs. So you are not short of options, are you? And you are considering buying jigs, so money per se is not the issue, am I right? You just want a solution that works for you.
So, given the above, I just wonder where you are getting stuck. In my experience ALL jigs have weaknesses as well as strengths, and that is true of mine as much as any others. Indeed, that's why I've published 3 different tenon jigs! They are all good their way, and they all have their limitations. I'm sure the same is true of all the others, whether they are free plans on the internet or ready-made commercial jigs.
Perhaps we would get further with this if you could explain exactly where you are getting stuck with the options already before you.
Please don't take offence with this, none is intended and I've had a crap day already
Steve
