Todats effort

[Blister]

Made this box this morning

not sure what wood it is ? from the offcuts box

The black mark is not a crack it in the grain !

off to work now

 

[user 5053]

There is something a little crude and unsatisfactory about the shape and type of wood of the lid. I would of kept it the same wood as the pot which looks like Douglas Fir and would of gone for a much simpler and elegant shape. I would also hollow the pot out the box using a saw toted bit which saves a lot of time and fiddling about.

 

[loz]

The Wood used for the lid is lovely, and looks like it took a very nice finish. What is it ? and what finish did you use ?

Regs

Loz


Soulfly - maybe you should just give marks out of 10 from now on - or even use a red font. - Got anything nice to say at all ??? -

 

[cornucopia]

the top wood looks a bit like olive wood.
is the top hollow?
have you made many box's before?

 

[Paul.J]

Not sure about this one Allen :?
The top timber looks really nice but both together don't compliment each other.IMO
Still it's used up some off cuts

 

[Blister]

There is something a little crude and unsatisfactory about the shape and type of wood of the lid. I would of kept it the same wood as the pot which looks like Douglas Fir and would of gone for a much simpler and elegant shape. I would also hollow the pot out the box using a saw toted bit which saves a lot of time and fiddling about.

:? Crude and unsatisfactory :?

I had in mind a simplistic box made from contrasting woods , I like the top because the grain runs in a different direction , I do all my turning with hand tools not drill bits :? I left the top half a millimetre bigger on the diameter to make a transition from bottom to top , the small cove is to aide removing the top , the shape is simple and not to fussy , Well I like it as do the family members that have seen the item , :lol:

 

[Blister]

The Wood used for the lid is lovely, and looks like it took a very nice finish. What is it ? and what finish did you use ?

Regs

Loz


Soulfly - maybe you should just give marks out of 10 from now on - or even use a red font. - Got anything nice to say at all ??? -

Loz Not sure what wood the top is , but as with all my turning The Finnish is all important , Best finish with the tool , then sand through the grits to 1500 , sanding sealer , de nibbed , the clear wax , its like a mirror , :lol: 8)

 

[Blister]

the top wood looks a bit like olive wood.
is the top hollow?
have you made many box's before?

Hi , You may be correct with the wood , it was quite heavy and dense ,

This is my first go at a box , not really wanted to do one before , but I like it

The top is not hollow , was going to hollow it but changed my mind as you cant keep anything in the top part of the lid :wink:

 

[Blister]

Not sure about this one Allen :?
The top timber looks really nice but both together don't compliment each other.IMO
Still it's used up some off cuts

I may try making a top out of the same wood as the lower section , see what it looks like then

 

[cornucopia]

the top wood looks a bit like olive wood.
is the top hollow?
have you made many box's before?

Hi , You may be correct with the wood , it was quite heavy and dense ,

This is my first go at a box , not really wanted to do one before , but I like it

The top is not hollow , was going to hollow it but changed my mind as you cant keep anything in the top part of the lid :wink:

a very good effort allot of people struggle with box's- how to hold- reverse turning etc so for a first attempt this is very good.in my opinion, for future box's-i would be aiming to:
have a hollow lid- yes nothing can be stored up there but it improves the
stability of the box and is a nice show of skill to any body who picks it up.

have an even wall thickness.

experiment with diffrent configurations of tenons- suction fit- french fit!- screw thread.

most of all enjoy your turning

 

[Blister]

the top wood looks a bit like olive wood.
is the top hollow?
have you made many box's before?

Hi , You may be correct with the wood , it was quite heavy and dense ,

This is my first go at a box , not really wanted to do one before , but I like it

The top is not hollow , was going to hollow it but changed my mind as you cant keep anything in the top part of the lid :wink:

a very good effort allot of people struggle with box's- how to hold- reverse turning etc so for a first attempt this is very good.in my opinion, for future box's-i would be aiming to:
have a hollow lid- yes nothing can be stored up there but it improves the
stability of the box and is a nice show of skill to any body who picks it up.

have an even wall thickness.

experiment with diffrent configurations of tenons- suction fit- french fit!- screw thread.

most of all enjoy your turning

OK , thanks for your comments ,By even wall thickness do you mean square sides inside the box ? rather than the radius I have done ?

but you will have to spill the beans on this one

" French Fit " :?:

 

[loz]

Echo also "what is a French Ft " ??

Loz

 

[NickWelford]

Sorry - don't like it. It sems top heavy to me, and the combination of woods doesn't feel right in my eyes. The top certainly appears to be olive or olive ash. The bottom is fir of some kind, probably Douglas.
The top needs to be more elegant also, I think.

Sorry, but not all crits are going to be sweetness and light. It just doen't work for me.

 

[Blister]

Sorry - don't like it. It sems top heavy to me, and the combination of woods doesn't feel right in my eyes. The top certainly appears to be olive or olive ash. The bottom is fir of some kind, probably Douglas.
The top needs to be more elegant also, I think.

Sorry, but not all crits are going to be sweetness and light. It just doen't work for me.

Hi , its not top heavy , looks like it is in the photos , but that's camera distortion due to close up shot

Here is a shot from a different angle , bit blurry as not in close up mode

The proportions are ,
10cm high overall , 6.3 cm diameter , and the lid is 3cm tall ,

I originally posted the photos just to show what I had produced and it turned into a critique all on its own :lol:

Still its interesting to see other peoples points of view .

Looking forward to seeing some of Soulfly work on here , cant remember seeing any yet ? I may be wrong ?

 

[Dave Atkinson]

For a first box I think it's great - well done - my first attempt ended up in the bin! :lol:

There are two types of box lid - russian and french.

Russian lids are tight "Pulitov" lids

French lids are "toulouse" and fall off! :lol: :lol:

I never drill out a box either - it takes too long and then you have to get rid of the little hole in the bottom. Whether you radius teh bootom or not is a matter of preference. Some people do a radius which helps you to get things out easily because the don't get stuck in the corners. I tend to go for straight sides because it's easier to do than getting a smooth radius. Neither is right or wrong - just different.


Cheers Dave

 

[loz]

It cant be top heavy - looks to exactly conform to the 1 third top to 2 thirds body box rule !!!

 

[loz]

Russian lids are tight "Pulitov" lids

French lids are "toulouse" and fall off! :lol: :lol:

ROFL !!!!

 

[Bodrighy]

Boxes :twisted: One thing I really struggle with. If this is your first effort at one then ccasion5:

The design is down to you in the end but if the lid fits then you have achieved IMHO. I have done a few with different woods for the top & bottom and, as on this thread, some people love 'em some hate them. If you are making them to sell then you will need to make what other people like in the meantime just keep practicing getting them to fit

Pete

 

[PowerTool]

Well I quite like it - the proportions do look better in the second shot.
The top looks very much like olive,if so,will have an oily feel to it.
Not sure about the bottom,looks much closer-grained than the Douglas Fir I've had,and less of a colour contrast between growth rings.

Andrew

 

[TEP]

Hi Blister.

Al has been said about THE box for now.

I just wanted to chuck my oar in and make a few suggestions. If I had made a box of similar shape, I would have made the lid of the same timber as the bottom, and not made it waisted. If the bottom is straight I think the lid should be straight as well.

Also if you wish to brighten up a other wise drab box, say with 'Olive Wood', make it as a inserted 'cabochon' in the top of the lid. It looks a lot more professional.

As to straight sides and bottom inside. I usually make a small radius in the bottom edge so if people keep small things inside, they can get them out without having to tip the box upside down.

Other than that, keep up with the practice and make more. We were all there once, although some would never admit it. :twisted: