We could probably open an interesting thread on handbags. Why is everything except the house and furniture carried in handbags, compared to men who by comparison carry very little, although Roy on coronation street has a handbag I am told. Perhaps it is just that simple, if men had handbags they would fill them to bursting point. Would you feel a . carrying a handbag, even if it was marked on the side "men only".
The final polish
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woodbloke
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mr":3ai6lbj8 said:Thats very likely and not a thing to be taken lightly.
Cheers Mike
Mike - it's called 'living on the edge' :lol: honed, stropped or however you want it :lol: :lol: - Rob
Paul Chapman
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mr":zp6skfvi said:
As long as you ensure that the blade is kept dead flat on the strop, I've found that you get no rounding over.
Cheers :ho2
Paul
DaveL
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Why not take the safe way out?
Visit the local charity shops and buy an old leather bomber jacket, loads of leather for all sorts of things in the shop and you don't have to keep looking over your shoulder as to where you left that freshly honed chisel. :shock: :wink:
Visit the local charity shops and buy an old leather bomber jacket, loads of leather for all sorts of things in the shop and you don't have to keep looking over your shoulder as to where you left that freshly honed chisel. :shock: :wink:
woodbloke
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mr":plj9isgy said:
Mike - yes, they have. Both mine and Pete's (Newt) stones are dead flat. Even if they were slightly out of true, it's a fairly easy matter to get them flat with a DMT (if you use them). I didn't need to and neither did Pete - Rob
seanybaby
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So all i have to do is drag the blade backwards over the rouge. How many times? 10?
woodbloke
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Sounds about right, maybe even less if the honed bevel is narrow, would advise you to use MrC's ruler trick on the back tho' - Rob
Paul Chapman
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seanybaby":1wjj596b said:
Yes, that would probably do it - but the number isn't critical. One point about the ruler trick (which I don't use) is that you can't really do that on a strop because you move the blade sideways. So if you want to use the ruler trick, you would have to confine the use of the strop to just the other side.
Cheers :ho2
Paul
gidon
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An alternative to stropping is using my method described here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDoRLdR4zC0
I use 0.5 micron microfinishing film on top of my green DMT stone for the final polishing.
I get about the same edge as I do if I strop (with some Clifton blue soap and leather) but it's more controlled and I would guess edge retention would be slightly better. But very hard to measure.
I'm interested in this ceramic stone Woodbloke and Newt are using. I too dismissed this when they were gaining popularity because of rumours they weren't flat. Possible Christmas present .... Do you find they stay flat? Do you use water or oil on them?
Cheers
Gidon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDoRLdR4zC0
I use 0.5 micron microfinishing film on top of my green DMT stone for the final polishing.
I get about the same edge as I do if I strop (with some Clifton blue soap and leather) but it's more controlled and I would guess edge retention would be slightly better. But very hard to measure.
I'm interested in this ceramic stone Woodbloke and Newt are using. I too dismissed this when they were gaining popularity because of rumours they weren't flat. Possible Christmas present ...
. Do you find they stay flat? Do you use water or oil on them?Cheers
Gidon
woodbloke
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Gidon wrote:
They stay flat and are as hard as a hard thing :? made from synthetic saphires (I think) so any wear over a period of time ought to be negligible and if it does go concave after a period (which I doubt) then it shouldn't be too difficult to correct with a DMT. I just use a bit of paraffin on mine, Pete uses DW40 as a lubricant but the stone can be used dry if needed, just easier to remove any swarf if it's part of a liquid - Rob
gidon
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Perfect - thanks Rob.
- they are out of stock at Axminster.
Cheers
Gidon
- they are out of stock at Axminster.Cheers
Gidon
Lofty
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Hi Woodbloke,
I am interested in your comments about Spyderco ceramic stones. I bought one (fine grit in a blue box) 18 months or so ago for sharpening carving chisels. I then became interested in having really sharp plane blades so naturally thought I could use it to provide the final polish. But, when I checked the flatness it is anything but flat. It bows quite a bit along its length and is convex across the width (on both sides strangely). I have assumed that it is therefore not suitable for wide blades. Or am I missing something? Perhaps mine is a bad example? Do you really think a diamond stone would flatten it?
Mike
I am interested in your comments about Spyderco ceramic stones. I bought one (fine grit in a blue box) 18 months or so ago for sharpening carving chisels. I then became interested in having really sharp plane blades so naturally thought I could use it to provide the final polish. But, when I checked the flatness it is anything but flat. It bows quite a bit along its length and is convex across the width (on both sides strangely). I have assumed that it is therefore not suitable for wide blades. Or am I missing something? Perhaps mine is a bad example? Do you really think a diamond stone would flatten it?
Mike
woodbloke
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Lofty":39osfmg2 said:Hi Woodbloke,
I am interested in your comments about Spyderco ceramic stones. I bought one (fine grit in a blue box) 18 months or so ago for sharpening carving chisels. I then became interested in having really sharp plane blades so naturally thought I could use it to provide the final polish. But, when I checked the flatness it is anything but flat. It bows quite a bit along its length and is convex across the width (on both sides strangely). I have assumed that it is therefore not suitable for wide blades. Or am I missing something? Perhaps mine is a bad example? Do you really think a diamond stone would flatten it?
Mike
Mike - the stone I have is the 10000g in a black box which I bought from Axminster about 6 weeks ago. I've just been out to the workshop to check it again with a steel rule and one surface is dead flat in both directions, the other side is very slightly concave. It ought to be possible (haven't tried) to flatten one with a coarse DMT stone in much the same way as a waterstone can be flattened against another stone. That said, a diamond stone is the only thing that will touch them. I think it's possible that you did get hold of a duff one, probably too late to get a refund or exchange now. If you have a DMT, it's worth having a go, you've got nothing to loose, but would suggest you go very carefully 8-[ - Rob
Lofty
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Thanks Rob, I'll give it a try and let you know how I get on.
Mike
Mike
Lofty
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I've just spent about half an hour trying to flatten my ceramic stone and it has definitely improved it I haven't tried to flatten it lenght ways, just across the width. It is just the ends that are not quite right now. I just hope that it hasn't damaged my diamond stone. Not sure how to check that. It loooooks ok but just a bit concerned that it produced dark coloured 'swarf' in addition to the white! Perhaps it was just cleaning it up!
Mike
I haven't tried to flatten it lenght ways, just across the width. It is just the ends that are not quite right now. I just hope that it hasn't damaged my diamond stone. Not sure how to check that. It loooooks ok but just a bit concerned that it produced dark coloured 'swarf' in addition to the white! Perhaps it was just cleaning it up!Mike
