Table saw advise

[CS Bespoke Furniture]

Hi everyone!

Looking to upgrade my table saw after xmas. Currently have a woodstar st12. Does the job but had a few issues with it and want something better and more accurate.

What would people recommend for a price range of around £700. I do want a sliding carriage and a rip fence. I've been looking at charwood w629 but seen mixed reviews, same with the scheppach series. I do love the look of the Axminster ts250 but with all the extras it is right at the top of my budget. For that price I want to know if it's worth it.

The big problem I have with the st12 is the poor construction of the sliding table, which won't sit flat and flexes a lot. Does anyone have experience with said saws above? Or one that I haven't listed and should consider?

Thanks for anyone's help and advice

 

[RobinBHM]

If this is for professional use, I would hold out and get a used cast machine, you should get a startrite, multico or wadkin for about your budget. All with cast tables no flexing will work all day long without needing constant tweaking to keep accuracy. Im not sure for your budget you will get the jump in quality for your budget if you buy new

Eg

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Table-saw-/28 ... Swo4pYV9n5

I suppose ideally a true sliding table that runs next to the blade is best for cabinetmaking, but a bolt on side table is still capable of very accurate work

A sliding table style is like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jet-JTS-600-S ... SwOtdYVEhC

 

[MikeJhn]

Thread on the TS-250-2 here: axminster-ts250-2-modifications-t102284.html?uid=20369

Mike

 

[CS Bespoke Furniture]

If this is for professional use, I would hold out and get a used cast machine, you should get a startrite, multico or wadkin for about your budget. All with cast tables no flexing will work all day long without needing constant tweaking to keep accuracy. Im not sure for your budget you will get the jump in quality for your budget if you buy new

Eg

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Table-saw-/28 ... Swo4pYV9n5

I suppose ideally a true sliding table that runs next to the blade is best for cabinetmaking, but a bolt on side table is still capable of very accurate work

A sliding table style is like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jet-JTS-600-S ... SwOtdYVEhC

Problem with cast machines is the weight. Only recently started out and have to move tools around a fairly small area. I was trained on wadkin tools too, they are superb.

The sliding tables I'm looking at are similar that that one you have shown, much more stable than a single weak price of ally.

Thanks Mike too, I have a sit down later and have a proper read through that thread!

 

[pike]

How small an area? Do you want to make the tablesaw the main thing in there? What will you be cutting on it? I've gone for the TS250 because I can do sheet materials on the track saw. I simply wouldn't have space to run 8x4 over a TS in my 6m x 3m shed. It's definitely budget hobby end but its capable. Depends if you're using it every day or not.

 

[CS Bespoke Furniture]

It's all in my garage at the moment. Would like to expand soon though. Already have a planer and extractor taking up a lot of space. Bench with load of tools the other side lol. Don't cut much sheet material at all. Mostly use it for ripping, but I do use the sliding table to cut mitres and also tenon joints

 

[pike]

I've decided to see how I get on without the sliding table and make a sled or two. I probably don't cut as many mitres or tenons as you though. If there's a saw which has an easy on/off sliding table that would be good for space saving.

 

[CS Bespoke Furniture]

Yeah I do cut a fair few tenons. Taken my sliding table off because it's so bad, do struggle without it. But gives me good practise in cutting tenons by hand! Just pretty slow lol

 

[Bodgers]

The sip itech 01332 clone may also fit the bill..

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[CS Bespoke Furniture]

The sip itech 01332 clone may also fit the bill..

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The sip has a lovely saw. Bit over budget though

 

[Bodgers]

The itech isn't though, and it is the same

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[CS Bespoke Furniture]

http://www.screwfix.com/p/scheppach-ts8 ... GwodXJoPcw

Anyone had any experience with this? Rubbish blade but apart from that it looks alright

 

[MikeJhn]

Does not say wheather it has an induction motor, but it looks just like the Axminster TS-250-2 with a cabinet and a smaller power unit?

Mike

 

[Bodgers]

It does, it's basically the Kity/TS200 clone. Smaller than a TS250.

 

[RobinBHM]

Why not keep a look out for a kity 618 or a scheppach ts4010 there are a few around and they are quality saws with an aly top so not too heavy.

 

[pike]

How much rip width do you need? You could save a bit on the TS250M2 by just getting the slider and basic machine. I've found it can actually rip more than the stated 200mm. Like 300mm although I haven't put it to the test yet and would probably need a diy mini extension for stability.

It is a budget saw which needs some tweaking but early impressions of mine is that the fence works, the blade cuts straight etc. Someone on another thread recently got a Bosch GTS 10XS which looks quite capable although it's not induction.

Try and see some in person if you can and assuming you haven't already.

 

[jazman]

I am in the same boat except have slightly higher budget (£1500..ish). I have been looking at sip 0133.. 10 inch and the identical ITEC one. The sip is more expensive but the ITEC appears to be the same saw under a different brand name for which there is little to no information about. I too have a small space 17' x 10' but I am designing my whole workshop round about it. I am finding looking for a saw quite frustrating because of my own lack in experience with the different brands and so i'm a bit nervous of taking the plunge.

 

[MattRoberts]

Here's info on the iTech. http://scosarg.com/itech-01332-250mm-ca ... -saw-bench

I have the axminster version - it's a very decent starter cabinet saw. I'd recommend it

 

[MikeJhn]

Have a look at this: http://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-tr ... h-ax884465 somewhere on the Axminster site they have a video of how (tongue firmly in cheek) easy it is to take the side sliding table off the saw to save space.

Mike

 

[CS Bespoke Furniture]

Here's info on the iTech. http://scosarg.com/itech-01332-250mm-ca ... -saw-bench

I have the axminster version - it's a very decent starter cabinet saw. I'd recommend it

Like the look off that, can't find the optional extra of the sliding carriage though. Not the best website, or I'm just very tired lol!