Suizan, Hachiemon or other Japanese flush cut saw?

[Steve Blackdog]

Hi folks,

I am looking for a flexible flush cut saw and have seen these two makes on Amazon. Does anyone have any experience of them? also thought about the Stanley, but it’s blade doesn’t seem to flex.

I don’t want to spend that much, but £20 seems to be the going rate for them.

cheers

Steve

 

[Sideways]

I can't comment on the brands mentioned but Guyokucho is a reliable and good value brand of machine made saw from Japan that I have been using for 30+ years.
They are stocked by Workshop Heaven.
The "Shokunin" range sold by Axminster Tools are also made by Gyokucho.

 

[thetyreman]

the veritas flush cut saw is very good and not too expensive, only just over £20.

 

[Steve Blackdog]

So I have just bought the

Gyokucho 1151​

with the 5” blade on Amazon, selling for only £16.50.

can’t really go far wrong at that price.

 

[ajs]

So I have just bought the

Gyokucho 1151​

with the 5” blade on Amazon, selling for only £16.50.

can’t really go far wrong at that price.

I've had one of those in my basket for a couple of months now, I'd be interested to hear your impressions when in arrives. I'd be particularly interested in slightly heavier work than dowels and the like, a couple of the uses I have in mind sheet flush with a beam and cutting a beam e.g. 18mm pine, flush with another for a sharp corner.

 

[pgrbff]

the veritas flush cut saw is very good and not too expensive, only just over £20.

I have also used one for many years. Good value.

 

[Parsnip]

2 Gyokucho flush cut saws £29.99 Rutland's. They have a sale on Gyokucho saws now.
Have been using a Gyokucho ryoba saw of late and it has improved, beyond measure, my ability to cut straight and true to square.

 

[Steve Blackdog]

I've had one of those in my basket for a couple of months now, I'd be interested to hear your impressions when in arrives. I'd be particularly interested in slightly heavier work than dowels and the like, a couple of the uses I have in mind sheet flush with a beam and cutting a beam e.g. 18mm pine, flush with another for a sharp corner.

Hi AJS

this is not the saw for what you are looking for. The blade is so thin and flexible that it will be hard to keep it true.

I am sure it could do the task you describe, but maybe not as easily as you expect.

Also, note these saws are very sharp. I know to my cost as I managed to slice the palm of my hand, and spent last night in A&E having it stitched back up.

cheers

 

[thetyreman]

Hi AJS

this is not the saw for what you are looking for. The blade is so thin and flexible that it will be hard to keep it true.

I am sure it could do the task you describe, but maybe not as easily as you expect.

Also, note these saws are very sharp. I know to my cost as I managed to slice the palm of my hand, and spent last night in A&E having it stitched back up.

cheers

ouch! hope you recover well steve..

 

[ajs]

Hi AJS

this is not the saw for what you are looking for. The blade is so thin and flexible that it will be hard to keep it true.

I am sure it could do the task you describe, but maybe not as easily as you expect.

Also, note these saws are very sharp. I know to my cost as I managed to slice the palm of my hand, and spent last night in A&E having it stitched back up.

cheers

Thanks for the update and I hope it heals up OK. I do know what you mean, I've had a couple of minor scrapes with my ryoba saw. Teeth on both edges makes a lot bigger hazard zone

 

[Steve Blackdog]

It was all very predictable. Feeling tired at the end of the day. Thinking, this is a very awkward, need to be very careful. Then the laws of physics and stupidity came into play and ouch!

on the positive side - the saw has zero set and 0.5mm kerf, so it was nice clean cut and it should heal very well. Nothing major- no tendons or nerves involved. Just on the hand it needed 6 stitches to hold it all together.

a useful reminder to stop when tired.

thanks for the good wishes

 

[pgrbff]

Hi AJS

this is not the saw for what you are looking for. The blade is so thin and flexible that it will be hard to keep it true.

I am sure it could do the task you describe, but maybe not as easily as you expect.

Also, note these saws are very sharp. I know to my cost as I managed to slice the palm of my hand, and spent last night in A&E having it stitched back up.

cheers

The Gyokucho should be fine for someone not used to Japanese saws, just go slowly. It is the thinner much more expensive resharpenable versions that are delicate and not recomended for those new to pull saws.

 

[sometimewoodworker]

The ones I use are the “Life” brand they have replaceable blades but I didn’t bother to buy them i just got a second one

 

[Parsnip]

The Gyokucho range have replaceable blades also.

 

[okeydokey]

I'm not going to say I don't have one of the flush cut saws mentioned above or that lidl had some Japanese pull saws the other day.