Stopped Grove Question

[GizmoDuck]

Hey, all.

I'm thinking of a box with a bottom in a grove, and with proud decorative dovetails.

Because of the proud tails the bottom's grove will need to be stopped at both ends.

I have that plough plane I mentioned in another thread that I'm learning on, but can I use that?

The simplest thing would be grove the entire board then cut the sides, front and back from it, but that would have all components with a through grove.

How would all of you make four stopped groves?

 

[Sgian Dubh]

How would all of you make four stopped groves?

I wouldn't. Mitre the corners to hide the groove, see below. If you don't do that you have to either make a little infill piece to fill the groove where it shows on one face, or modify the cutting of the joint to incorporate a small pin or peg to fill the groove. Slainte.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Or, as we were taught, chisel out the end of the groove first then plane into the cut out.

 

[GizmoDuck]

I wouldn't. Mitre the corners to hide the groove, see below. If you don't do that you have to either make a little infill piece to fill the groove where it shows on one face, or modify the cutting of the joint to incorporate a small pin or peg to fill the groove. Slainte.

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Thanks, however, the tails are going to be proud.

 

[GizmoDuck]

Or, as we were taught, chisel out the end of the groove first then plane into the cut out.

I may give that a go, though my plough seems to really struggle cutting a grove in short pieces for some reason, so I might try do it all with a chisel.

However, I'd have to figure out the walls as I won't be able to run a saw along them

 

[Just4Fun]

On a small piece like a box side I would use a cutting gauge or knife to mark the sides of the groove then chop it all out with a chisel. It doesn't take as long as you might think.

When I have problems with my plough plane not running smoothly it is usually that the iron is not sharp or the fence is not parallel.

 

[Phil Pascoe]

Mark and cut the ends of the grooves then the rest of the grooves while the wood is in a long length then cut into four. The old maxim - keep it as long as possible as long as possible.

 

[Sgian Dubh]

Thanks, however, the tails are going to be proud.

Mitring the corners where the groove would show wouldn't stop you making the end of the pins and tails proud: there wouldn't be either a tail or a pin in the same place as the groove. Slainte.