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[MikeJhn]

Putting C type breakers into your consumer unit will not make a jot of difference if they are not needed, however if they are they are useful to say the least, the difference in cost is so minimal it seems pointless to argue about it. So what are the undesirable consequences that you feel are going to happen by installing them?

Can you please point out the poor advice I have written?
How do you know I am not competent to give advise?

It was you that brought up working on a Microwave, without incidentally giving out any safety advise.

I look forward to your reasoning behind not using C type breakers?

Mike

 

[n0legs]

I look forward to your reasoning behind not using C type breakers?

Mike

I did say go read about them :roll: but I will answer with one point.

A C type MCB requires a lower earth loop impedance than B types. Ring finals may not have a sufficiently low impedance. This impedance would need to be checked before installing a C type breaker.

Have you been able to check this one factor for the people you have advised to install C Type breakers?

Enough now Mike. I've said you're wrong, if you don't want to accept it well you just carry on.
My pulling you up on this matter is for the benefit of others who read this. I know what is right and what is wrong, I don't need to justify an ego and get into a mud slinging competition with you.

 

[Woodmonkey]

Nolegs wins on points I would say

 

[MikeJhn]

A C type MCB requires a lower earth loop impedance than B types. Ring finals may not have a sufficiently low impedance. This impedance would need to be checked before installing a C type breaker.

Have you been able to check this one factor for the people you have advised to install C Type breakers?

Yes

Mike

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

Enough now chaps please. Many thanks.

 

[n0legs]

Ding Ding Round 12 :lol:

Okay would anyone else agree with me that what I have quoted below is "advice"?
It could be taken as a statement, but in my interpretation (granted it is only my interpretation) given the context of the topic and the manner in which this was made I see it as advice.

It is noted that Random Orbital Bob made a small error in writing "16V" instead of "16A", followed by CS repeating it.
Mike saw an opportunity to correct this mistake and enlighten us with his knowledge.
I won't go through all of Mikes posts that he makes this same advice, but they are there for you to find if you so wish.

you should have a C type breaker in the consumer unit to cover this circuit

Mike

Mikes recent post when I challenged him:-
"A C type MCB requires a lower earth loop impedance than B types. Ring finals may not have a sufficiently low impedance. This impedance would need to be checked before installing a C type breaker.

Have you been able to check this one factor for the people you have advised to install C Type breakers?

Yes

Mike"


Could anyone who has had Mike call in and inspect/survey their electrical installation before they've considered installing a C Type breaker speak up now??



The bells gone on the final round.
Mike, grow up, ego can be a heavy burden.

 

[n0legs]

Enough now chaps please. Many thanks.

Understood Rob, I'm out.

 

[RogerBoyle]

Seriously guys lol



n0legs gets my vote as well :mrgreen: =D>

 

[MikeJhn]

Fair enough, but I do object to being told to grow un by a prima-donna, when all I was trying to do was help.

Mike

 

[n0legs]

Clearing the air.

Yes Mike I know you are only trying to be helpful, but some of what you've said could have consequences.
If you go look at my posts you'll get to see what I am and what I do. I shift large volumes of electricity about like no one else on this forum.
I'm not trying to come over as the "big I am" and I do truly try and stay respectful when I post something that goes against what another member may have written.
I'm trying to instill that there are factors that need consideration.
In many of my posts regarding electricity I use terms like "a properly designed installation", "consult someone who is competent", "leave it to the man signing it off".
I do this so people realise what you read and how you understand it could get very much misunderstood.

I could explain in a 3 hour conversation on the phone how to rewire someone's home. But how would I know that they honestly understand and will carry out my instructions to the "T" to get a safe and reliable installation? I don't.
Having knowledge of a subject is great, but having expertise is a responsibility.

I've worked at the thick end of electricity for a long time and I've seen the worst of it. I've lost three friends to electricity and attended more than my share of electrical incidents and accidents. And it's usually when one small piece of the puzzle is wrong.

I will accept "prima-donna" if you'll accept grumpy old fart :lol:

 

[MikeJhn]

I worked for a very long time to become a grumpy old fart, but your condescending attitude is not warranted you need to realise there are others with knowledge on the Forum who try to help not just criticise without putting any substance to the criticism.

Mike

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

OK guys enough is enough. Cant say I didn't warn you. it's getting quite "shocking" now...geddit...oh please yourselves!