Wanted Stanley Bailey 5 1/2 Rear Handle Base Screw Wanted (Dead or Alive)

[NorthernSteve]

Hello I have acquired a Stanley Bailey 5 1/2 (Made In USA) plane from a car boot, the Rear Handle Base Screw is missing, if anyone had a spare that they would like to sell me or knows of a place where I can find such an item, please let me know.
Thanks
Steve NOW SOURCED VIA EBAY - Thanks to all who responded.

 

[Cabinetman]

A little confused, do you mean the long bar with a thread on each end that goes all the way through the rear handle and then there’s a brass slot head nut that screws onto it, fairly sure that any such bolt/nut from most Stanley planes will fit but never tried swapping them around.
Ian

 

[Chisteve]

If it’s the small screw for tote handle a frog screw will work could send you one

 

[Chisteve]

If it’s the small screw for tote handle a frog screw will work could send you one

 

[NorthernSteve]

A little confused, do you mean the long bar with a thread on each end that goes all the way through the rear handle and then there’s a brass slot head nut that screws onto it, fairly sure that any such bolt/nut from most Stanley planes will fit but never tried swapping them around.
Ian

Hi Cabinetman, the rear handle has what you describe but also at the base, in front of the raised part of the handle, bit still through the woooden handle is what I can only assume is a small screw.

 

[NorthernSteve]

If it’s the small screw for tote handle a frog screw will work could send you one

Apologies for delayed response. The handle at the rear has a bar threaded at both ends with a brass cross head nut that screws on to it. In front of that, still within the wooden handle at the base is a hole, for which i can only assume a screw was once fitted in to the base. Without it the rear handle pivots. Does that make sense?

 

[Cabinetman]

Well that’s a new one on me, sorry can’t help you. Yes it does make sense.

 

[NorthernSteve]

If it’s the small screw for tote handle a frog screw will work could send you one

I will try one in the morning, very kind offer. Thank you.

 

[NorthernSteve]

Well that’s a new one on me, sorry can’t help you. Yes it does make sense.

Its part 15 in the attached, smaller planes don't have it.

 

[Yorkieguy]

Unfortunately, I think you'll find that the thread size is a long since non-standard 7/23" 20 TPI Whitworth, as is the handle and knob bolt:

Ref No. on Diagram	Name of Part	Size
1	Lever Cap Screw	9/32- 24Tpi American/unified form
2	Cap Iron Screw	5/16"- 18Tpi BSW
3	Brass Adjusting Nut Left Hand Thread	9/32"- 24Tpi American/Unified form
4	Frog Screws	7/32" WHIT. TYPE 20Tpi
5	Frog Adjusting Screw	¼"- 24Tpi American/Unified form
6	Handle Toe Screw	7/32"-20 tpi Whitworth Form
7	Handle and Knob Bolt	7/32- 20Tpi Whitworth Form

There have been other forum threads on this topic, and one suggestion was that 1/4"BSW, having 20tpi, is effectively an oversize for the 7/32" 20tpi Stanley thread - so you can simply tap out the hole oversize, and fit a BSW thread in it's place. See:

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/threads/replacement-tote-screw-for-stanley-no-4.86223/

https://www.tttg.org.au/Content/Stanley Planes and Screw Threads - Part 2.pdf

Hope that might help a bit.

David.

 

[Blackswanwood]

Just checked my tin of odds and ends as I thoughtIhad one but unfortunately not. However…

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/27547296...kKWu5F5TsG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Possibly costs more than the rest of the plane …

There’s also new ones under a search for Stanley Tote screw.

 

[niall Y]

There is a guy on Ebay who is selling new screws for this purpose, in either steel or brass.

 

[NorthernSteve]

Just checked my tin of odds and ends as I thoughtIhad one but unfortunately not. However…

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/27547296...kKWu5F5TsG&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

Possibly costs more than the rest of the plane …

There’s also new ones under a search for Stanley Tote screw.

Thanks for looking..

 

[NorthernSteve]

Update - screw found thanks to BlackswanWoodwork on eBAY.
Now ordered.
Thanks all

 

[rob1693]

Wow £8.50 for a screw I paid less than that for a woden no 4 on a carboot sale

 

[NorthernSteve]

Wow £8.50 for a screw I paid less than that for a woden no 4 on a carboot sale

Yes, I did feel that I had my trousers pulled down. I paid £5 for the plane so £13.50 and some elbow grease in total doesn't make me feel too bad.

 

[rob1693]

Still a decent price for a life time tool once you've fettled it

 

[rob1693]

I have a load of various plane spares, think I'll get ebaying them

 

[Katomi woodsmith]

It’s old imperial thread not metric it could even be whitworth

 

[NorthernSteve]

I have a load of various plane spares, think I'll get ebaying them

They may sit there for a while, but when someone needs that part, they need it and will pay.