Shooting board plane

[jimi43]

I think the mitre plane...especially the infill ones are stunningly beautiful pieces of art....

Thanks Bill!

...and Philip......

....and of course...Robert....wonderful stuff...

This is going to me my next plane project...without a doubt...with a hotdog attached! 8)

Jim

 

[LuptonM]

I like this one. Is there a link to its creator?

 

[jimi43]

I like this one. Is there a link to its creator?

The wonderful Philip Marcou

Absolute masterpieces!

Jim

 

[dunbarhamlin]

And unlike the LN #9 - which gives common pitch at best (20° bed angle - so 45° EP if you order a O1 iron) - with a 12° bed angle the Marcou really is low angle - though it's D2 - a pity to have to get a replacement iron for such a high cost item.

 

[bosshogg]

Hi woodchuck...You haven't said whether this will be a one off, or you intend to use it with some frequency?. One can only assume that that your record smoothing plane is a no.4, I use one of these, albeit a Stanley, on my small shooting board, I also use a very light block plane. The problem is, keeping the blade in positive contact to achieve an accurate cut, takes experience with small planes like these, a bigger plane will ease the job insomuch as the extra weight, once in motion, will cut through the timber easier. That having been said, in order for the bigger plane to operate, a larger shooting board will be required, for 45 degrees this could either be done via a donkeys ear

(the table sloping toward the point of cut), or as per one of the previous posts shooting board design, with the plane angled to achieve the cut.
For a one off, placing the precut timber in a vice and planing it with a block plane, checking both with a bevel stock and square, assuming you have these, will get you their as well...bosshogg

 

[woodbloke]

Must admit I do find it incredible that some would spend shockingly mad amounts of money on such a thing. Have I used one? Nope. Would I like one? Nope.

Interesting point, which opens (again) another can of worms. Would I own a Holtey or an S&S infill? Nope...and yes I've used both. Any of those high end, pricy planes are undoubtedly very nice to own and look at, but as I've said many times, they don't actually work any better than a standard offering from LN or Veritas and it's the same for the mitre planes in Jimi's post...nice to look at, but they're not going to work any better than a LN No9. However, and this is the point, the LN 51 actually works better than any of the mitre planes and for that reason, and that reason alone, the cost is justified (for me at least) Also, having sold my No9 to Tiddles, the shortfall to make up the difference isn't all that great - Rob

 

[Mike Wingate]

Good link BB, thanks. I have got the wood for a turned hotdog, but this looks a liklier option. I have a No.5 that I have stripped down and may convert to a shooting plane for the kids at school to use on the new sloping shooting board. They are mainly making small storage units, ie. Boxes, so it will be useful

 

[jimi43]

Good link BB, thanks. I have got the wood for a turned hotdog, but this looks a liklier option. I have a No.5 that I have stripped down and may convert to a shooting plane for the kids at school to use on the new sloping shooting board. They are mainly making small storage units, ie. Boxes, so it will be useful

The hotdog I made for my old Spiers mitre has proven worth it's weight in gold lately....

Just friction fit so easily removed...

Jim

 

[Benchwayze]

You must be a 'leftie' Jim...
I am blessed with a certain amount of ambidexterity and fortunately woodwork falls into the group of things I can do left handed, if necessary; with the exception of fitting hinges on the right hand sides of doors! Unless it's because I need a left-handed screwdriver!

Nice old plane Jim. Had I known of your liking for in-fills, when I sold my Spiers coffin smoother, I might have been in touch! Sorry!
I sold her because the handle just wasn't big enough for my hands. But what a smoothie she was!

Regards
John

 

[custard]

I borrowed a mitre cutting guilllotine once for a job with lots of architraves and it was really handy.
I suppose it'd be an essential item for picture framers, but a bit limited for bigger stuff, box makers etc.

I wouldn't pretend that a guillotine is anything other than a specialised piece of kit, but it'll do more than you might think. The standard Morso F will mitre box sides up to 6" tall, and it's rated for hardwood sections 65mm x 65mm, in practise I had no problems munching through 3" x 3" oak, which is far heftier than I'd ever take to a shooting board. I guess that's why Andrew Crawford, probably Britain's premiere box maker, got himself one. And at about £600 for a second hand Morso F they're not actually that much more expensive than the £428.50 Classic Hand Tools are asking for a Lie Nielsen 51!

The limiting factor with a Morso F isn't really timber size, it's the faff if you want to cut anything other than a 45 degree mitre. It's an example of a tool designed to do one single job, which it does better than pretty much anything else, but versatility came a distant second in the design brief!

 

[Benchwayze]

Custard,
Are you talking about the pedal operated, double-mitre cutter that Picture Framers use? Friend of mine has one. Great piece of kit for mitres, but not so much fun as doing it with a block plane!

My guillotine is just a hand operated trimmer, with a blade either side. The cutting edge slopes at 45 degrees and the fences can be moved from 90 deg right across to about 47 deg. The idea is to saw almost to length, then trim to final size. If needs be, I can mitre the end grain of stock bout 3.75 inches depth, but the thicker the stock, the less height you can cut, because of the 45 degree blade.

Hope you can figure out what I mean because it's locked away and my digi-icam is broke!

My Trimmer is like this, but about 45 years old. And I think I will make some add-ons, for repeat length cutting... :idea:

http://www.axminster.co.uk/axcaliber-mt ... rod858421/

John

 

[TheTiddles]

Must admit I do find it incredible that some would spend shockingly mad amounts of money on such a thing. Have I used one? Nope. Would I like one? Nope.

Interesting point, which opens (again) another can of worms. Would I own a Holtey or an S&S infill? Nope...and yes I've used both. Any of those high end, pricy planes are undoubtedly very nice to own and look at, but as I've said many times, they don't actually work any better than a standard offering from LN or Veritas and it's the same for the mitre planes in Jimi's post...nice to look at, but they're not going to work any better than a LN No9. However, and this is the point, the LN 51 actually works better than any of the mitre planes and for that reason, and that reason alone, the cost is justified (for me at least) Also, having sold my No9 to Tiddles, the shortfall to make up the difference isn't all that great - Rob

Does that make me an accessory to your addiction then?

 

[woodbloke]

Does that make me an accessory to your addiction then?

If I've got the shakes on Sat when you pick up the No9...you'll know :lol: - Rob