scheppach ts2500ci

[Pintglass]

Hello

I have just joined the forums so hello to everyone. i'm looking for a bit of advice on a new table saw, i have been looking at the scheppach ts2500ci. I have read on here that a few users have had a few issues with the saw to do with accuracy alingment of the blade. Are there any other bad points about this saw. I will only be using the saw in my garage so space is limited, is the saw impossible to move around without the wheel kit.
I have been give a price from my local supplier of £1925 inc vat for the saw + sliding carriage + extenstion table, i'm not sure weather this price included the run off table as well i will have to check.

Any advice would be most welcome.

Thanks pintglass

 

[Chippyjoe]

Hi Pintglass,

Welcome to the forum,friendly bunch on here and you will get an answer to most queries!

With regards to the Scheppach,I think you will find that the rear take off table is part of the package that you have been quoted on.
I used to own a 2500ci that you are after and found that once it was set up it was fairly accurate and needed "tweeking" every now and then.

It is to heavy to just pick up and move about,so a wheel kit (Rutlands) would be a good idea.
If you are going to cut a few panels,then it might be worth going for the 2100mm sliding table as against the 1400mm one I made the mistake of buying the smaller one and regretted it on more than one occasion.

The dust extraction is not the best,but dont let this put you off in what for the money is a good saw.

Hope that helps.

Mark.

 

[mpooley]

HI
Ive had one for a few years now - very pleased with it for the money.
Hardly ever need to tweak -

fence is good - mine has the aluminium table which i have been thinking of changing to the cast iron

not sure why though - i just like iron

 

[Pintglass]

Thanks for the replys.

I have decided to go for the 4020 instead (i think) i've just got a few reservations a the moment. The first one being the sliding table, i'm not sure that it will carry any sort of weight without deflecting i see scheppach do a pivoting arm for this saw, has anyone got one of these or do you find the sliding table to be ok without. My other resavation is that this saw seems to be a little bit more expensive compared to other saws of a similar spec (recommendations welcome).

Thanks Pintglass

 

[JonnyD]

Hi Pintglass I used to use a 4010 with sliding table and while cutting long and heavy workpieces the sliding table did tend to deflect a little. . Under normal use on small to medium furniture components the saw was very accurate. I notice you can know get an outrigger which should help stop the problem but probably only worth it if you are going to be using large and heavy timber regularly.

Jon

 

[Pintglass]

The main use for the saw will be for panel cutting (bedroom carcases) size wise they will be about 2100 x 600, do you think this will be to much for this saw. The price for the support arm is about £300.00 a bit steep really.

Thanks again Pintglass

 

[JonnyD]

Hi Pintglass I think the saw will handle a 2100X600 panel fairly easily. You will only be able to crosscut it however as the sliding table will only do about a 1400mm crosscut even though they call it a 2.1m rail.

If you are cutting these size panels regularly you cant beat a full size sliding table panel saw but I dont think one will fit in your garage.

Have you considered getting the ts2500 and a panel cutting rail system such as festool or mafell?

Jon

 

[Pintglass]

Well i've gone for the 4020 with scoring blade, side extension and sliding table it is being delivered on friday. Ended up paying alot more that i wanted to but hopefully it will be worth it.

Thanks again pintglass

 

[Streepips]

I bought a Scheppach 2500 new about 15 years ago, and used it every day until last year. Its stripped down now and stored.. I was never happy with the load bearing ability of the sliding carriage, its great for lightweight sections and panels but does deflect under load.
I bought a Fox 10", the bigger one with the outrigger and scoring blade, and its just as well made as a Scheppach and far more capable with heavier sections. The accuracy and repeatability is equal if not better than the Scheppach, and at a far lower cost.
Sheppach really excel with some aspects of their engineering but its all within limits, go beyond those limits and it strains to give a decent result.
I am not belittling Scheppach products, I am a great fan of their machinery, the first thing of theirs I bought 20 years ago was a 260 PT and its as good now as when new, with nothing but regular maintenance and belt replacements. very good and productive user friendly machine. The 2500 also was and is a joy to use but only up to certain dimensions of stock, go beyond that limit and you might as well be using a cheapo saw from o supermarket shed.
Having used both, extensively, I would recommend the Fox before the Scheppach, I know Scheppach has better snob value, but the Fox actually does the same job and more.
If I was just doing trim and light panel work the 2500 would be more than adequate, but the nature of the game is that every so often a longer piece, a heavier piece, a wider piece, needs to be machined. and the Fox does it comfortably whilst the Scheppach will not do it at all...
A major benefit of the Fox is that the crosscut fence can be mounted front or rear of the sliding carriage, on my 2500 its limited to the back ( user end) of the table. This is of no consequence when sizing rails or small panels, but certainly is if you have an 8x4 to lop in half.
The guts and engineering of the Fox and Sheppach are on a par. both equally tried and tested designs, in fact the Fox is better where the stop/limit system for raising and lowering. and tilt is concerned. I had to fettle the Scheppach, the Fox just adjusted and stayed there...
As for a back off table, that is the least of your worries. a few metres of 2x2 and a small sheet of ply will sort that out, the extra tables and
add ons are expensive and you can often make up a cheaper and more tailored solution with stock timber and sheet.
Also bear in mind that the Fox is £1300 ................ Thats £600 quid already for fettling with.
If I had to start again I would choose the Fox before the Scheppach. and I have a lot of Scheppach gear, all bought new and lovingly, almost fanatically maintained. Thats the facts as relevant to me.
Good luck with whichever way you go !

 

[Streepips]

Same saw, bigger blade. Hmmmmmmmmmmm