Roses 🌹

[Stigmorgan]

Any rose experts about? I've been given some bare root climbing roses from £land for a raised planter I'm planning to build at school, garden plants are a subject I'm only just getting into so need advice.

 

[niall Y]

They should go in as soon as possible to start growing, mine already have leaves .
If you can't get them in where they should be going, then plant them elsewhere to keep them alive and healthy.

 

[Tris]

What's the variety name? That'll help to know how high itll get and what sort of support it'll need

 

[Stigmorgan]

All I know for sure is that i need to soak them before planting, the planned location should be good, it's south facing and gets good sun all morning and by mid summer that extends to around 2pm but stays bright all day.
The "instructions" are not clear at all.

 

[Stigmorgan]

What's the variety name? That'll help to know how high itll get and what sort of support it'll need

The packet says up to 4m.

 

[profchris]

The packet says up to 4m.

4m on heavy clay, less on light soil.

You'll want to train the shoots horizontally in year 1. Posts and galvanised wire work, and the wire becomes invisible in year 2. Tie loosely as the stems get quite thick, and train the shoots in spirals along the wires.

I put posts around 6m apart, 3 lines of wire, and a rose at each post. I was overrun in year 3, but I'm on clay. That might work if Aldershot has sandy soil, in which case get some organic matter dug in when you plant.

After a couple of years you'll need a hedge trimmer,, not pruning shears!

 

[profchris]

And is that raised bed where they'll go? If so, just one will cover that tree in a couple of years.

 

[Stigmorgan]

And is that raised bed where they'll go? If so, just one will cover that tree in a couple of years.

No, I haven't built the bed yet, it will be behind the railing against the wall, I'm pretty sure the wall isn't wide enough for 5 plants though

 

[Stigmorgan]

4m on heavy clay, less on light soil.

You'll want to train the shoots horizontally in year 1. Posts and galvanised wire work, and the wire becomes invisible in year 2. Tie loosely as the stems get quite thick, and train the shoots in spirals along the wires.

I put posts around 6m apart, 3 lines of wire, and a rose at each post. I was overrun in year 3, but I'm on clay. That might work if Aldershot has sandy soil, in which case get some organic matter dug in when you plant.

After a couple of years you'll need a hedge trimmer,, not pruning shears!

To be honest I'll be happy if I get them to 1m , one site I've looked at suggested that containers will restrict the size of the plant as the roots will go deep and wide, I'm tempted to lift a slab for each rose I put in and just make a frame for each one, I'm thinking possibly 3 but it also said that they shouldn't be planted close together so maybe just 2 of them

 

[Tris]

It's likely that just one of those will be able to cover that wall. The white one looks similar to a Rosa felipes, some of which can make 80ft of growth. I'd put it to grow up a big tree somewhere just in case.
The red Paul's Scarlet is a good one, flowers repeatedly and not too thorny. Prone to getting mildew so perhaps better up an arch where it'll get more air round it.
I'd put the yellow one on the wall, just cos it'll stand out well against the brickwork, and the pink and purple ones as pillar roses on some stout posts, either an 8ft high 4" post or a strong wooden obelisk

 

[Stigmorgan]

So i let the intrusive thoughts win and lifted a slab, then decided to see how deep the backfill is, I'm about 450mm deep so far.
How deep should I go?
Whats best to fill with? I have loads of mulched woodchip I can mix with soil.
Once i plant the rose how much do I cut back? The stem seems to be covered in wax on all of them.