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I’d be very careful with the allegations that a certain person is this or that. You may offer an opinion, ie it’s my opinion that a certain president is incompetent, but you can’t state that he is……unless you have the funds of Mr Musk to mount a defence against libel action. Remember, your posts are here for ever (well as long as the site is open) and people have been prosecuted for their posts on other platforms that dated back years. Just saying!

Hi deema,

Many thanks for your advice. Much appreciated!

I think that its somewhat more likely that Biden may face charges of war crimes and complicity in genocide in the future.

How surreal has this got lmao . Are you two in the pub? 🤪
 
are you serious?

that is a screenshot from Fox news -why did you not have the courage to link that actual text
A =because you knew it was from a totally unreliable source

I repeat: he did not say those words -it is lie

heres a tip for you: when you see an article claiming to quote somebody....go and check out what they actually said.

fox news :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
Ok so they just made up what he said?

Care to provide evidence which says he did not say this?
 
Very difficult to reason with anyone who's knowledge of history appears to be confined to what they had for breakfast.
The Soviets started the war as allies of the Nazis, and joined them in invading and committing countless atrocities in Poland.
When their former ally turned on them they came to us for help, and it was given.
How did they behave afterwards?
You really do need to do some research on the forced annexation of countries by the Soviets after the war, the circumstances surrounding the Berlin airlift and so forth.
Very hard to see how you can blame the west for these things, they were entirely the result of aggressive expansion on the part of the Soviet Union.
None helped by the extremely naive view of Stalin and his motives by FDR and Eisenhower. Both were taken for mugs. Churchill was probably the only one of them who saw Stalin for the monster that he was.
We also allied with Nazi Germany who, killed slightly less Europeans than our Soviet chums.

Did you forget that part whilst flicking through your Beno over a wheatabix.
 
We also allied with Nazi Germany who, killed slightly less Europeans than our Soviet chums.

Did you forget that part whilst flicking through your Beno over a wheatabix.
All right then genius, I'll bite. We didn't have an alliance with the Nazis. We had our moments of behind the scenes minor cooperation in early 30s, but that's hardly to be called an alliance.
 
RobinBHM said:
Here’s a basic principal of most law systems:

If you hand a loaded gun to someone knowing they are going to murder someone you will also be tried for murder. Biden knows how the weapons he has supplied have been used to slaughter civilians.
"hand a loaded gun"

yeah so not the same, not same at all



OK. I thought that was a fairly easily understood legal principal. I’ll try to make it simple.

Biden has supplied in officially declared supplies to Israel (not counting the ones he managed to evade oversight on) includes the following:

14,000 2,000-pound MK-84 bombs,

6,500 500-pound bombs,

3,000 Hellfire air-to-ground missiles,

1,000 bunker-buster bombs,

2,600 air-dropped small-diameter bombs,

The shipments consist of 50,000 tons of munitions and military equipment. It took 500 transport aircraft and 107 ships to deliver these arms and munitions.

These arms and munitions have been used to slaughter tens of thousands of people, 70% of them women and children according to the UN Human Rights Office.

This has been done with the full knowledge and cooperation of Biden.


yeah so not the same, not same at all “

Yes, not the same at all. Much worse, genocide and ethnic cleansing.
 
ey_tony said:
deema said:

I’d be very careful with the allegations that a certain person is this or that. You may offer an opinion, ie it’s my opinion that a certain president is incompetent, but you can’t state that he is……unless you have the funds of Mr Musk to mount a defence against libel action. Remember, your posts are here for ever (well as long as the site is open) and people have been prosecuted for their posts on other platforms that dated back years. Just saying!


Hi deema,

Many thanks for your advice. Much appreciated!

I think that its somewhat more likely that Biden may face charges of war crimes and complicity in genocide in the future.

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I think you're clutching at straws with that one about expecting Biden being tried for war crimes....they still haven't charged Bush and Blair with their for their illegal war which was proven to be based on lies so sadly you've got very little chance of ever seeing Biden in the dock!

Yes. I'm pretty sure of that unfortunately.

My point was that it was more likely that Biden be tried for war crimes and genocide before he pursues me for libel, which as "Jake" pointed out "truth is a defense".
 
Croolis said:



I’d be very careful with the allegations that a certain person is this or that. You may offer an opinion, ie it’s my opinion that a certain president is incompetent, but you can’t state that he is……unless you have the funds of Mr Musk to mount a defence against libel action. Remember, your posts are here for ever (well as long as the site is open) and people have been prosecuted for their posts on other platforms that dated back years. Just saying!


Hi deema,

Many thanks for your advice. Much appreciated!

I think that its somewhat more likely that Biden may face charges of war crimes and complicity in genocide in the future.
How surreal has this got lmao . Are you two in the pub? 🤪

Whoosh!!
 
Croolis said:



How surreal has this got lmao . Are you two in the pub? 🤪


Whoosh!!
If you want to quote a post, just click 'reply' on that post. The whole thing will appear in your comment box, and you can isolate the bit you want to respond to, if not the whole thing.
 
RobinBHM said:


"hand a loaded gun"

yeah so not the same, not same at all



OK. I thought that was a fairly easily understood legal principal. I’ll try to make it simple.

Biden has supplied in officially declared supplies to Israel (not counting the ones he managed to evade oversight on) includes the following:

14,000 2,000-pound MK-84 bombs,

6,500 500-pound bombs,

3,000 Hellfire air-to-ground missiles,

1,000 bunker-buster bombs,

2,600 air-dropped small-diameter bombs,

The shipments consist of 50,000 tons of munitions and military equipment. It took 500 transport aircraft and 107 ships to deliver these arms and munitions.

These arms and munitions have been used to slaughter tens of thousands of people, 70% of them women and children according to the UN Human Rights Office.

This has been done with the full knowledge and cooperation of Biden.


yeah so not the same, not same at all “

Yes, not the same at all. Much worse, genocide and ethnic cleansing.
Israeli genocide has not yet been proven, and may never be proven. The International Court of justice concluded it is plausible that:

Israel's actions in Gaza Strip could amount to genocide and issued provisional measures, in which it ordered Israel to take all measures to prevent any acts contrary to the 1948 Genocide Convention, but did not order Israel to suspend its military campaign.

If ultimately Israel is adjudged to have committed genocide, it would be expected that Hamas would be judged similarly, based upon their very explicit intent of genocide towards Israel.

Israel have made it clear they have little trust in the actions of the UN which they claim is institutionally antisemitic (with some justification) and may ignore any judgements anyway.

The proposition that Biden would be held accountable is utterly implausible - the arms would have been supplied before the final ruling. Any attempt by the UN to implicate the US would threaten withdrawal of US and 25% of their total funding.

Far better than squawking inflammatory insults at either side would be the promotion of what needs to happen to reach a desirable outcome for both.
 
I love it!:)
It's like poking a hornet's nest with a stick whenever one says anything that doesn't fit with the forum's Tooting Popular Front's mindset. Just look at yourselves, you're falling over each other in order to attack one person with differing views to your own. It really says it all.
You know bruvvers, if I was in the process of constructing a left wing fool it would be hard to choose whose brain on here I could use as a blueprint! There are so many Wolfie Smiths I'd be spoilt for choice.

Does it not occur to any of you left wing, hard of thinking band of ideologues that the next stage of a potentially escalated war in Europe has just been reached with Biden's approval and the use of long range American provided weapons which have already been fired into Russia?

The West are being slowly sucked further into a war that potentially no one can win but could bring death and destruction on an unimaginable scale if it gets out of hand. Forget your global warming and net-zero nonsense, this is on a different level.

I've no doubt Putin will retaliate, he has been given no other choice in order to save face, I just hope it's measured otherwise prepare your kids and grand kids for the possibility of national service.
Let's just hope that Trump has enough influence now to prevent Putin from overreacting to Biden's stupidity.

I don't think anyone is attacking 'you' (unlike yourself, being insulting of other folks... )
It is your opinion and view which is being, quite rightly, assassinated, for being incoherent, lacking substantiation, and for being shallow and superficial.
There is a difference.
I don't countenance anyone ridiculing another person. But I strongly support entrenched ridiculous views being outed as ridiculous.
 
My point was that it was more likely that Biden be tried for war crimes and genocide before he pursues me for libel, which as "Jake" pointed out "truth is a defense".
I'm sure you won't be pursued for libel or slander, just on practical grounds, "Martin45".
 

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