President Elect's 'top team'

[martin45]

RobinBHM said:

Spectric said:

his government have been complicit in genocide.

have they?
certainly not in Ukraine

Biden and his government are directly involved and central to the ongoing genocide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the West Bank. He and his government are also directly involved and central to the war crimes being committed in Lebanon.

 

[deema]

I’d be very careful with the allegations that a certain person is this or that. You may offer an opinion, ie it’s my opinion that a certain president is incompetent, but you can’t state that he is……unless you have the funds of Mr Musk to mount a defence against libel action. Remember, your posts are here for ever (well as long as the site is open) and people have been prosecuted for their posts on other platforms that dated back years. Just saying!

 

[RobinBHM]

Its actually what Charles Schwab is promoting in one way or another with the WEF to open another can of worms lol.

we dont need conspiracy theories here

 

[RobinBHM]

Biden and his government are directly involved a

please can you show me American military involvement in Gaza

 

[danst96]

Well it looks like it is not all rosy between biden and trump after all, looks like Biden wants to ensure Trump has a real mess to sort out as he has now said Ukraine can use American long range missiles against Russia, the Russian argument has been that these missiles only function with NATO based data from NATO military systems and therefore it means NATO is directly involved. Biden might be trying to cause massive instability and he knows he has nothing to loose.

This is exactly what it looks like. Sums up his whole administration. If he cared about his country and his population, even in losing he would take care of their best interests. This is not.

 

[danst96]

we dont need conspiracy theories here

Funny thing is hes praised the Chinese government and the way its run and specifically said he thinks it would be good for many western countries to run their government in that way.

 

[martin45]

RobinBHM said:

martin45 said:

Biden and his government are directly involved a

please can you show me American military involvement in Gaza

My statement was (before your edit) :

“Biden and his government are directly involved and central to the ongoing genocide and ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the West Bank. He and his government are also directly involved and central to the war crimes being committed in Lebanon.”

Biden and his gang have provided military aid, financial aid and political cover for this genocide. It is extremely well documented and despite numerous links (on this forum) to this involvement, you are still pretending you are unaware of it. Try looking back on all of those links or maybe research it yourself.

Incidentally if you want direct American soldiers involvement with the Israeli military i.e. boots on ground, here is a link:

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/israel-iran-antimissile-system-us-troops/index.html

 

[RobinBHM]

Funny thing is hes praised the Chinese government and the way its run and specifically said he thinks it would be good for many western countries to run their government in that way.

WRONG

he didnt say that

he said China has achieved amazing growth and he said they have the wisdom to tackle the economic challenges, he didnt say he supported China nor di dhe say he thinks Western countries should be run that way



I suggest you listen to what he did say, not what Fox news claimed he said

it is the right wing populists who seed and spread these conspiracy theories............its no surprise Trump supporters fall for it
the problem with Trump supporters is a lack of critical thought

 

[RobinBHM]

Biden and his gang have provided military aid, financial aid and political cover for this genocide. It is extremely well documented and despite numerous links (on this forum) to this involvement, you are still pretending you are unaware of it. Try looking back on all of those links or maybe research it yourself.

false

America is a long time ally of Israel and provides various support, you cant conflate that with "direct involvement in genocide"

words have meanings, it is important to be precise in their use

 

[martin45]

deema said:

I’d be very careful with the allegations that a certain person is this or that. You may offer an opinion, ie it’s my opinion that a certain president is incompetent, but you can’t state that he is……unless you have the funds of Mr Musk to mount a defence against libel action. Remember, your posts are here for ever (well as long as the site is open) and people have been prosecuted for their posts on other platforms that dated back years. Just saying!

Hi deema,

Many thanks for your advice. Much appreciated!

I think that its somewhat more likely that Biden may face charges of war crimes and complicity in genocide in the future.

 

[RobinBHM]

Incidentally if you want direct American soldiers involvement with the Israeli military i.e. boots on ground, here is a link:

and now you are conflating support for defence systems with offensive operations

again please avoid false representation

 

[RobinBHM]

I think that its somewhat more likely that Biden may face charges of war crimes and complicity in genocide in the future.

nonsense

If you want to be taken seriously you need to stick to facts

 

[martin45]

“RobinBHM said

martin45 said:

Biden and his gang have provided military aid, financial aid and political cover for this genocide. It is extremely well documented and despite numerous links (on this forum) to this involvement, you are still pretending you are unaware of it. Try looking back on all of those links or maybe research it yourself.

false

America is a long time ally of Israel and provides various support, you cant conflate that with "direct involvement in genocide"

words have meanings, it is important to be precise in their use”


Here’s a basic principal of most law systems:

If you hand a loaded gun to someone knowing they are going to murder someone you will also be tried for murder. Biden knows how the weapons he has supplied have been used to slaughter civilians.

Biden himself has said that if you supply weapons to a country you are responsible for how they are use.

Needless to say he was referring to Iran and I guess he has a double standard when he supplies them!

 

[danst96]

WRONG

he didnt say that

he said China has achieved amazing growth and he said they have the wisdom to tackle the economic challenges, he didnt say he supported China nor di dhe say he thinks Western countries should be run that way



I suggest you listen to what he did say, not what Fox news claimed he said

it is the right wing populists who seed and spread these conspiracy theories............its no surprise Trump supporters fall for it
the problem with Trump supporters is a lack of critical thought

 

[RobinBHM]

Here’s a basic principal of most law systems:

If you hand a loaded gun to someone knowing they are going to murder someone you will also be tried for murder. Biden knows how the weapons he has supplied have been used to slaughter civilians.

"hand a loaded gun"

yeah so not the same, not same at all


I notice you do not admit this:

and now you are conflating support for defence systems with offensive operations

again please avoid false representation

I have nothing wrong with criticism of Americas actions in relation to Israel, but you presenting false assertions wont help your argument. Please stick to the facts and argue your case with those.

 

[ey_tony]

deema said:

I’d be very careful with the allegations that a certain person is this or that. You may offer an opinion, ie it’s my opinion that a certain president is incompetent, but you can’t state that he is……unless you have the funds of Mr Musk to mount a defence against libel action. Remember, your posts are here for ever (well as long as the site is open) and people have been prosecuted for their posts on other platforms that dated back years. Just saying!

Hi deema,

Many thanks for your advice. Much appreciated!

I think that its somewhat more likely that Biden may face charges of war crimes and complicity in genocide in the future.

I think you're clutching at straws with that one about expecting Biden being tried for war crimes....they still haven't charged Bush and Blair with their for their illegal war which was proven to be based on lies so sadly you've got very little chance of ever seeing Biden in the dock!

 

[RobinBHM]

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are you serious?

that is a screenshot from Fox news -why did you not have the courage to link that actual text
A =because you knew it was from a totally unreliable source

I repeat: he did not say those words -it is lie

heres a tip for you: when you see an article claiming to quote somebody....go and check out what they actually said.

fox news

 

[RobinBHM]

I think you're clutching at straws with that one about expecting Biden being tried for war crimes....they still haven't charged Bush and Blair with their for their illegal war which was proven to be based on lies so sadly you've got very little chance of ever seeing Biden in the dock!

and when are we going to see Demented Don thrown in jail?

 

[Jake]

Russia have been using mines by the thousands, how is Ukraine doing the same a dangerous escalation.

And they are choosing to use them on their own territory, not someone else's (well, Kursk aside).

 

[Jake]

I’d be very careful with the allegations that a certain person is this or that. You may offer an opinion, ie it’s my opinion that a certain president is incompetent, but you can’t state that he is……unless you have the funds of Mr Musk to mount a defence against libel action. Remember, your posts are here for ever (well as long as the site is open) and people have been prosecuted for their posts on other platforms that dated back years. Just saying!

Saying it is your opinion doesn't save you from defamation, otherwise you could say anything you like without consequence with some magic its just my opinion words. But truth is a defence.