Plywood facing

[profchris]

I see a clear answer.

"Bog standard" is whatever the sellers think they can sell. It's no standard. Recently all your local sellers have changed their supplier, so what they offer is different. It's their new bog standard.

That's why.

No-one knows where to get what you used to buy. Maybe no-one local sells it any more, and anyway you don't know what you used to buy (bog standard = no standard).

Then you're being told that you can specify some types of ply, and thus know what you're getting, but they all cost more.

 

[whatknot]

Folks

My (hopefully) last comment (s)

My only questions was what was the lighter ply now being sold, and why all of a sudden is it being sold at the outlets around here

I still haven't had an answer to either, except the suggestions of thats what they sell to make money which I fully understand, it doesn't answer what it is or why its all of sudden being sold

I didn't ask what to buy, or where to buy it, or where sells the same as I used to get, I know full well that if I go for baltic birch plywood (if the timber merchants sell it) its going to be a better product but also costs a relative fortune by comparison

Its like seeing a starving penniless man and saying why don't you go and have a meal in the Ritz

I thought, wrongly, that someone might know what the lighter stuff was and what the reason for its emergence in the market place

 

[Turnr77]

It's going to be a cheap far east made plywood faced with whatever cheap timber they can get, impossible to identify what it is from your photo and it doesn't matter if you don't like it don't buy it.
How on earth do you expect anyone on here to know what your undisclosed local supplier is now selling and why? Ask THEM.
If you are not happy with it then find another supply, all anyone on here has tried to do is give you some other (and better) options, all done in a friendly helpful manner, but you seem to expect us to know your suppliers buying policies???

If it helps on the rare occasion that I have needed to buy small ply panels in a hurry I found Wickes to be fair quality but the last time was a few years back

 

[Sgian Dubh]

But what is this later facing layer?

Responding specifically to your question whatnot, see above, you seem to have purchased plywood with a crown cut veneer probably of oak, but possibly ash.

As to the type of plywood you purchased, it might be useful to have a look at information at this link to Hanson: https://hanson-plywood.co.uk/product-category/plywood/ You might find something matches what you've purchased, from the core veneers to the show veneers. Plywood sheets generally have a mark on them that describes the grade (type and expected end use), and both the core veneers and the surface veneers. These marks are commonly adhesive labels on one of the faces, or stencilled coded stamps on the edge. But, if you're buying only part sheets and offcuts, i.e., less than a full 2440 X 1220 mm board, it's quite possible that any guidance labelling is missing because it's already been cut off. Slainte.

 

[whatknot]

Many thanks for your response, I will investigate the link you posted shortly

Unfortunately these part sheets only have a barcode label with "cut plywood" on them

Your response is much appreciated

 

[Bodgers]

But what is this later facing layer?

Responding specifically to your question whatnot, see above, you seem to have purchased plywood with a crown cut veneer probably of oak, but possibly ash.

As to the type of plywood you purchased, it might be useful to have a look at information at this link to Hanson: https://hanson-plywood.co.uk/product-category/plywood/ You might find something matches what you've purchased, from the core veneers to the show veneers. Plywood sheets generally have a mark on them that describes the grade (type and expected end use), and both the core veneers and the surface veneers. These marks are commonly adhesive labels on one of the faces, or stencilled coded stamps on the edge. But, if you're buying only part sheets and offcuts, i.e., less than a full 2440 X 1220 mm board, it's quite possible that any guidance labelling is missing because it's already been cut off. Slainte.

I have bought a fair amount of crown cut oak veneer plywood and it doesn't look anything like that.

If the OP has just being buying "Plywood" without specifics, I doubt they would have been sold a specific veneered plywood like oak or ash as that's an even more specialised product.

If the OP actually ended up buying from Hanson, they are good to deal with in my experience. I have ordered veneered plywood, block board and Birch from them and haven't been disappointed. Delivery for full sheets can be pricey though. I live less than 70 miles from them and I was paying £40 per delivery to have full sheets delivered.



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[skelph]

I call it standard, or bog standard, as that is what it is

My original question which has yet to get an answer, is why has the plywood changed (it seems at various outlets not just one) to this very light stuff with voids

Sorry to disappoint you but there is no such thing as standard or bog standard plywood
I doubt very much that the plywood buyers at the major "sheds" know or are even interested in anything other than how cheaply they can buy the stuff and how much profit can be made from it. It will almost certainly be the case that the red coloured ply you used to get is now more expensive (in their opinion) for the sheds to purchase or may no longer be manufactured because the face veneer species is no longer available.
The fact that they all seem to have changed to a different looking board may well be down to the fact that the sheds probably all buy from the same importer who buys in huge quantities at a time from the far east, so if importer brings in something cheaper the sheds all buy that.
If you go to a proper timber merchant (not necessarily one of the nationwide chains) for plywood or any other sheet material you will be shown several different types of ply and all at different prices - the better the quality the higher the price.
Interior ply is cheaper than Exterior (WBP) ply which again is cheaper than Marine Quality ply - you "pays your money and takes your choice"

 

[Sgian Dubh]

I have bought a fair amount of crown cut oak veneer plywood and it doesn't look anything like that.

My error. A typo crept in due to a brain fart. I meant to say rift cut veneer. Thanks for pointing that out. Slainte.