Pelotons

[iNewbie]

Also odd that quite a few bikes have hit your vehicle while you are overtaking. Why do you think that might be?.

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I nearly hit one only recently. Muppet had his ipod on full-blast as he weaved on the road like nobody was behind him. Same as the Jay-walkin' ipoders... Now, wheres Dave Prowse our Green Cross Code Man too wake these muppets up...

 

[AJB Temple]

Ballooning is a much better and more serene way of getting from A to B.




As long as you don't mind where B is.

 

[bugbear]

I've been cycling all my life and I've never seen anyone cycling four abreast (except in the tour de france etc). Just somebody having a moan about cyclists as usual. If you don't like sharing the road with cyclists then you should use public transport and/or motorways only.

Lol, answered like a true cyclist

Really Jacob, really?? have you not done much road cycling?

IIRC Jacob always cycles on his tod (for some reason ) So Not much chance of being 4 abreast.

BugBear

 

[Finial]

I nearly hit one only recently. Muppet had his ipod on full-blast as he weaved on the road like nobody was behind him. Same as the Jay-walkin' ipoders... Now, wheres Dave Prowse our Green Cross Code Man too wake these muppets up...

Maybe Stiggy would have hit him. But how do you know he had is Ipod on full blast? Could you hear it above your car radio?

What are you saying here? Is your point that if you had hit him, he would have been to blame for being in your way? That people cycling are a serious problem to you? That incompetent drivers don't exist?

How do some drivers manage to overtake bikes safely and without difficulty, weaving or not, while others are unable to overtake stationary street signs and bollards without hitting them? Would it be worth providing proper separate bike tracks to get bike riders out of your hair?

 

[Jacob]

I've been cycling all my life and I've never seen anyone cycling four abreast (except in the tour de france etc). Just somebody having a moan about cyclists as usual. If you don't like sharing the road with cyclists then you should use public transport and/or motorways only.

Lol, answered like a true cyclist

Really Jacob, really?? have you not done much road cycling?

IIRC Jacob always cycles on his tod (for some reason ) So Not much chance of being 4 abreast.

BugBear

Your recollection is wrong BB, as usual. You ought to get a bike you know - I'm sure it would do you good.

I've ridden with all sorts of groups from large to small for about 60 years (started when I was about 10).
Many thousands of miles. Non competetive - mostly touring and the occasional Audax. All over Britain & Europe. A bit in Oz

 

[Jacob]

I nearly hit one only recently. Muppet had his ipod on full-blast as he weaved on the road like nobody was behind him. Same as the Jay-walkin' ipoders... Now, wheres Dave Prowse our Green Cross Code Man too wake these muppets up...

Maybe Stiggy would have hit him. But how do you know he had is Ipod on full blast? Could you hear it above your car radio?

What are you saying here? Is your point that if you had hit him, he would have been to blame for being in your way? That people cycling are a serious problem to you? That incompetent drivers don't exist?

How do some drivers manage to overtake bikes safely and without difficulty, weaving or not, while others are unable to overtake stationary street signs and bollards without hitting them? Would it be worth providing proper separate bike tracks to get bike riders out of your hair?

Leave 'im be Finial, 'es not worth it!!
Some muppet drivers should be on public transport only.

 

[Fatboy]

I've been cycling all my life and I've never seen anyone cycling four abreast (except in the tour de france etc). Just somebody having a moan about cyclists as usual. If you don't like sharing the road with cyclists then you should use public transport and/or motorways only.

Lol, answered like a true cyclist

Really Jacob, really?? have you not done much road cycling? 4 or more cyclists abreast is quite common once you get outside of the cities. Just put 'UK cyclist abreast images' into google images to see what it looks like from another road users view.

Like most motorists I have no problem sharing the road with cyclists, but races or 'time trials' as they like to call them to get around the law should be restricted to tracks. I used to race a high performance car and I'm sure cyclists would be just as fed up with me if I decided to use the Queens highway as a race track and put their safety at risk by using the road like I owned it

Fer gawds sake it really isn't an issue (except to J Clarkson fans). I googled as you suggest and it just shows dozens of cyclists harmlessly pedalling about - occasionally bunched up but this is always temporary. There's even a diagram explaining that it may be easier to overtake a bunch rather than a line one by one.
Comparing bike racing to car racing is ridiculous. Very few cyclists can get up even to 30mph for long except downhill with the wind behind.
Have to say my fastest ever was 50mph, down Mont Ventoux in fact, wide empty road, long steep hill! But 25mph on a flat road is about the limit for most. The target for a 25 mile time trial is one hour
Time trials ban bunching up - not for the sake of road users but to make the time trial fairer - nobody wants to be tailed as it gives an unfair advantage.

Get a life! Or get a bike you might enjoy it.

I have a bike, in fact I have two, a roadbike and an off road, and cycle an average of 150 miles per week with my son and grandson. I also scuba dive regularly, tried my hand at microlighting recently, go skiing three times per year, and enjoy my life to the full.

What I don't enjoy is hearing people like you who try to portray a very different image of cyclists by defending behaviour that many of us who do cycle regularly know to be true and is sadly widespread amongst the community. I'll never join another cycle club because of that behaviour, bunching up IS regular in almost every cycling club I've ever been a member of as well as intolerable attitudes towards every other road user - I once saw some people I had consdered friends abuse a disabled driver to the point she ended up in tears all because she nearly hit a bike while reversing because of her inability to look over her shoulder, and laughed about it on the ride home. That was the day I vowed never to ride with another group again

Some drivers are turds of the highest degree but I've heard enough abuse hurled at innocent drivers to know that some cyclists are too and pretending that isn't the case is disingenuous.

 

[Jacob]

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Some drivers are turds of the highest degree but I've heard enough abuse hurled at innocent drivers to know that some cyclists are too and pretending that isn't the case is disingenuous.

Nobody is pretending that cyclists are angels. They are normal human beings. But generally they don't start threads like this one, attacking motorists (most of them are motorists) and they don't think they own the roads.
Threads like this are bloody boring except that it does give an opportunity to explain to some very ignorant motorists what the issues are for cyclists.
Possibly all motorists should have to do some cycling as a compulsory part of their driving test.

Motorists and cyclists who can't share the road in a civilised way should stick to public transport.

As i tried to point out earlier - reports of cyclists and/or motorists behaving less than perfectly is about as interesting as reports of ducks crossing the road.

 

[bugbear]

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Some drivers are turds of the highest degree but I've heard enough abuse hurled at innocent drivers to know that some cyclists are too and pretending that isn't the case is disingenuous.

Nobody is pretending that cyclists are angels.

You're pretending they never ride 4 abreast. Or have you moved away from that ridiculous claim?

BugBear

 

[Random Orbital Bob]

Bye bye thread