panelled door

[mailee]

Just started another project today, an interior panelled door. I managed to get the mortices cut in the stiles.

Then after marking out the tennons,

I cut the cheeks on the table saw. I am glad to say the jig works well. (Waiting for comments on blade guards and the like)

I ended the night with most of the tennons finished.

Will keep you posted when I complete some more. :wink:

 

[OPJ]

Looking good so far, Mailee - all apart from that tenonning operation, of course! :wink: It looks dangerous at the best of times, but looks frightening when you've got timber that's probably 2'6" longer and the blade's at full height! :?

I guess we'll be seeing some raised panel work with this one?

 

[Digit]

Not if it's properly clamped it's not. I have completed three doors this year with the tenons cut on my TS.

Roy.

 

[woodbloke]

I would have bandsawn those tenons I fancy and then trimmed them up with a router. Looks a bit unwieldy on the saw the way it's being done - Rob

 

[mailee]

Rob, that timber I have in the jig is under 2 foot and the jig is well clamped with a 'T' section runner in the mitre slot. These jigs are available for the table saw all I have done is made my own version of it. In the photograph it only shows one clamp as the shot was set up for the picture, when in use I have two clamps on the timber and take shallow cuts with the blade gradually raising it with each pass. I feel confident with this setup and it works fine for me. I would use the bandsaw but find it is not as accurate for tennons as the table saw or a router. I wouldn't dream of cutting anything longer than 2 foot with this jig preferring to use the router and jig I have. I could have cut this on my vertical router jig but can only cut as deep as the cutter which would have been too shallow for this job at 3 3/4" deep.

 

[Waka]

Mailee

Looking good, doing the tenons that way always looks a bit on the dicy side, but if you are aware of the dangers and everything is clamped it can be acheived successfully.

Are you going to use reaised panels?

 

[woodbloke]

Rob, that timber I have in the jig is under 2 foot and the jig is well clamped with a 'T' section runner in the mitre slot. These jigs are available for the table saw all I have done is made my own version of it. In the photograph it only shows one clamp as the shot was set up for the picture, when in use I have two clamps on the timber and take shallow cuts with the blade gradually raising it with each pass. I feel confident with this setup and it works fine for me. I would use the bandsaw but find it is not as accurate for tennons as the table saw or a router. I wouldn't dream of cutting anything longer than 2 foot with this jig preferring to use the router and jig I have. I could have cut this on my vertical router jig but can only cut as deep as the cutter which would have been too shallow for this job at 3 3/4" deep.

Glad that part of the making went well. So it was a contrived picy then?...not that I'd ever do anything like that :^o - Rob

 

[mailee]

Yes Waka it will have the lower two panels raised and the upper panels are etched glass. The client already has the glass hence the doors being custom made and of odd preportions. Yep, caught me out Rob, tghe picture was set up and dare I say it most of my WIP ones are as there is only me in the shop. Oh and no I have nothing to do with the Beijing Olympic commitee. :lol:

 

[mailee]

Well after a couple of nights more work I got well on. I would have posted last night but the Internet was slower than a snail with piles! Anyway I got the edges of the frame moulded and glued up the wood for the panels.

Then after dimensioning them cut them on the router table.

Two panels were then finished ready to fit.

After dry fitting the door the panels were tried in place.

Just some moulding to make to hold in the glass next and then I can glue everything up at last.

Will keep you posted once this is complete.

 

[mailee]

Just a short session today as I got the door glued up.

All the tennons were Fox wedged.

Will get the panels fitted tomorrow.

 

[Tusses]

:?:

thats not what I know as a fox wedge

:?:

I thought they were in non through tenons ?

 

[Digit]

Me neither!

Roy.

 

[mailee]

Ah yes, I appologise they ARE Fox wedges in blind tennons, I stand corrected Tusses. These ones are just wedged tennons of course, silly me. Too much falling down fluid tonight I fear.

 

[dennis]

What I know as fox wedging is using two wedges points together,mainly used in propping, and shuttering.

Dennis

 

[mailee]

No Dennis, a Fox wedge as Tusses correctly states is in the end of the hidden tennon and spreads as the tennon is pushed in, it is a common joint in staircase Newel posts to bases. :wink: I should have known better as I have fitted a few Newels in my time. :roll:

 

[dennis]

Mailee

I know the ones you mean. But for all the years that I have been joinering, rightly or wrongly I have always known using two opposing wedges together as fox wedging.

Dennis

 

[woodbloke]

Mailee is correct. A fox wedged tenon (having just checked in the TofFM...Joyce) is where a blind tenon is wedged. Once in, it's almost impossible to pull the joint apart again - Rob

 

[dennis]

Mailee is correct. A fox wedged tenon (having just checked in the TofFM...Joyce) is where a blind tenon is wedged. Once in, it's almost impossible to pull the joint apart again - Rob

I am not disputing that Rob.

I am just saying that in over 45yrs of joinering I have always known using two opposing wedges together in propping and shuttering as fox wedging. This may indeed be an incorrect term, I would be interested if other people use this term, or if it is categorically wrong.After using the term for all this time I cannot see me changing now, right or wrong.

Getting back to the thread,the doors are coming along great Mailee.

Dennis

 

[BradNaylor]

Mailee is correct. A fox wedged tenon (having just checked in the TofFM...Joyce) is where a blind tenon is wedged. Once in, it's almost impossible to pull the joint apart again - Rob

I am not disputing that Rob.

I am just saying that in over 45yrs of joinering I have always known using two opposing wedges together in propping and shuttering as fox wedging. This may indeed be an incorrect term, I would be interested if other people use this term, or if it is categorically wrong.After using the term for all this time I cannot see me changing now, right or wrong.

Getting back to the thread,the doors are coming along great Mailee.

Dennis

I fancy it might a regional thing...

... Cumbria's a long way from Wiltshire. Or Hull!

Me - I've never heard of a fox wedged tenon.

I was educated in the art of the 'Manchester Screwdriver.'

Dan

 

[Digit]

That a Brumigum screwdriver.

Roy.