dave i made a jig (shush dont tell you know who )for the table saw its to cut accurate angles i wish ,well i tried cutting some and you have to get them spot on like 6 sided up to 15 sided for turning on the lathe.its called segmented turning . i think it should be renamed as demented turning ](*,) so you cut some wood then see if it makes a ring then try again ?? i think trev might have tried this . so i have some firewood but dont have a fire to burn them in . #-o