One for all you Festool fans

[chippy1970]

Before I begin let me just state that I bought the SYS-MFT from www.powertool-supplies.co.uk (nuts & bolts) a few weeks ago

The T SYSTAND was provided free of charge by Rogier at http://www.diafer.nl/

I've had the T systand for exactly a week now and had a good chance to try it out. First thing you will notice if you buy one is the craftsmanship, its very well put together. All edges are smooth and all joints are perfect. It looks very strong and I imagine it can take a lot of weight if needed. The rear foot that hooks to the next systainer is solid Beech and the front metal part that the T-loc knob connects to is what looks like laser cut stainless steel.

My T systand came with some spare stickers, a spare piece of beech moulding used to hook the rear to the systainer below and a spare metal part where the T-loc knob connects to. I dont know if these spare parts come with every T systand maybe Rogier can confirm this ??

I've decided the best way to compare it to the Festool SYS-MFT is to list all the various things i have noticed, some good things and some not so good.

SYS-MFT                                                                                                                     T SYSTAND

T-loc compatible & classic (but only on top)                                                                T loc ONLY (classic version available as far as I know)

Cannot clamp to sides easily                                                                                      Lots more clamping holes on sides

Fit to other systainers is exactly the same as any systainer (slight play)                   Fits absolutely perfectly with no movement whatsoever

The mdf top doesn't fully cover the systainer (there is some plastic)                         The birch ply top is ply all the way

Very light                                                                                                                    Heavier as its 18mm plywood

Internal storage                                                                                                         No internal storage

Rubber grip strip on top & V groove                                                                           V groove only

Can stack anywhere in a stack of systainers                                                             Can only go on top of a stack

Build quality the usual quality you would expect with festool                                     Excellent build quality, you can tell Rogier wants to supply a quality piece of kit.


Its been a pleasure to review both these portable bench's and I hope the info helps others in their decision on which one to buy, or you could buy both  [big grin]

Here's a few photos for you.

 

[Nippychippy]

Great review just seen it on the fog hope bror gets some comp nicer design and better built

 

[chippy1970]

Yeah I started a thread on there to find out who came up with the idea originally. Rogier (bror) 's name came up. He then asked if anyone who had a sys mft wanted to compare one to his one. I've never been one to turn down a freebie :grin:

 

[Shrubby]

Thanks for the review Chippy
The Diafer system looks solid and well executed - small details like chamfering under the corners to get rid of cable/hose traps
I don't think you'll ever find who invented them. Users have always invented add on gadgets for systainers since they first came out - tool carriers and worktops are the most common. I made a birchply top for mine so that I could cut on it and use it as a step. It had a lip all round and simply fitted snugly over the plastic. I bolted an MDF tray on my imported SR6 vacuums to carry systainers and eurocrates which made a usefull worksurface too.
Matt

 

[chippy1970]

Hi Matt , thanks for the comments. Yeah I've seen a few of these systainer add-ons over the years.

I found an old email from 3 years ago when I had emailed Rogier to get prices.

Chris

 

[petermillard]

Cheers for posting this Chris - great to have a review from someone who also has the Sys MFT. Did you ever get an answer re pricing of these?

Pete

 

[chippy1970]

Yeah he replied straight away back then ,I'm not sure if the prices have changed though.

I can try and get Rogier to post on here with prices. Would be better if you heard it from the horses mouth.

 

[chippy1970]

Just pm'ed him on the festool owners group to see if he can post details here.

Just found his original post on the fog http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-j ... workbench/

 

[petermillard]

Ah, thanks for that - I searched FOG but couldn't find the thread! I'll PM him and see what the score is.

Cheers, Pete.

 

[chippy1970]

Just got some prices for these systands if anyone is interested you can contact Rogier at his website or look him up on the festool owners group under the name BROR.

The following was copied from a PM on the FOG I have no connection to Diafer I was just lucky enough to get sent a freebie to review, thanks.

The price of the T-systand is €62,- excl. VAT (21%, in European Union only).

For sales directly out of the EU there is no VAT.

Shipping to germany is €15,95 for either one, two or three systands
to Uk, denmark, France, that is : €16,95
to Finland, Ireland, Italy, Spain and Sweden that is: €27,95

To most countries outside outside Europe (world) it is:

€34,30 for one,
€58,30 for two or three alike.

 

[The Bear]

Or just make one out of scraps for free. Just needs some holes drilling

Mark

 

[MMUK]

Very nice. However, it's an expensive Workmate (not a very practical one judging by the size and lack of jaws) on wheels with a bit of storage thrown in. I'd be surprised if it doesn't attain some irreparable damage within 12 months, it is plastic after all.......

 

[Waka]

Just bought the Sys MFT, yes a bit expensive but then all Festool gear is. I bought mine to keep on my boat so I've always got a clamping system available, something that's been missing for far to long.
Well done Festool.

 

[chippy1970]

Very nice. However, it's an expensive Workmate (not a very practical one judging by the size and lack of jaws) on wheels with a bit of storage thrown in. I'd be surprised if it doesn't attain some irreparable damage within 12 months, it is plastic after all.......

The tops are replaceable and you would have to be pretty clumsy to cut or break any of the plastic parts. Not sure if you have any festool stuff ?? but if you do the whole point of this is that it fits on a stack of systainers so is really handy. I quite often work in tight spaces so this really comes in handy when there's not enough space to use any of my other portable benches.

 

[chippy1970]

Quoted from my post on the Festool owners group

Here you go here's the set up I was thinking of for cross cutting. These are the dogs a member kindly had made for me Smiley

I've not run a saw on it yet to try it and I was thinking of making a wider sacrificial top. The top then will have a kerf mark in it to help alignment.

The dogs are just clamped down with m8 bolts and wing nuts. This works well on the tsystand but the rebated sections on the sys mft ,where the feet clip in make the mdf thinner so another dog is needed where the 19.9mm section is slightly shorter. I've got 4 dogs and one dog is shorter to allow for fixing in the thinner sysmft. Hope that makes sense.

 

[petermillard]

Looks good. Used it in anger yet Chris?

 

[chippy1970]

Looks good. Used it in anger yet Chris?

Hi Pete, sorry only just spotted your reply. Thanks for getting these made for me. No I've not used them yet , I could have the other day but didn't have them with me. I had to knock up a door lining and I always use my ts55r to cut the housings in the head. I did them freehand with the rail but I'm sure the dogs would've helped.