Odd hand tools saved

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

At Men In Sheds, we get a assortment of donations.

We try to save as much as we can.

Here is a good example of saving some hand tools. Done my some members at my workshop.

Rusted and seized.

Also bent.

This was heated to red hot, placed on a anvil and tapped back into shape.

Then into hot citric acid.
More to follow.

Rusty and also seized.


When we get tool like this, we try to see if they can be made to move. If not they are broken for spares or scraped.

Doesn't look much. But that small amount of dirt was enough to seize the worm gear. So it is cleaned out and the the gear worked back and forth. Until it is free to move.

Then with a blow torch all the old oil, grease and wax is burnt of.
Then a hot citric bath.

A nice WD hand vice.

But we soon found and issue when it was striped down.

The screw is striped and bent.
Odd for a tool made in 1944 the thread was M8. So it must of bean replaced in its life.

So we replaced it.

The Hot Citric acid bath.

All three were then removed and given a polish up with a brass wire wheel.

They are then placed on a hot plate to dry them out.
When spit bubbles on them, a mix of Oil and wax is applied.

All 3 are ex WD tools, all stamped as well.

 

[Kevin Riley]

At Men In Sheds, we get a assortment of donations.

We try to save as much as we can.

Here is a good example of saving some hand tools. Done my some members at my workshop.


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Rusted and seized.

Also bent.


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This was heated to red hot, placed on a anvil and tapped back into shape.

Then into hot citric acid.
More to follow.



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Rusty and also seized.


When we get tool like this, we try to see if they can be made to move. If not they are broken for spares or scraped.


View attachment 175113


Doesn't look much. But that small amount of dirt was enough to seize the worm gear. So it is cleaned out and the the gear worked back and forth. Until it is free to move.

Then with a blow torch all the old oil, grease and wax is burnt of.
Then a hot citric bath.




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A nice WD hand vice.

But we soon found and issue when it was striped down.


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The screw is striped and bent.
Odd for a tool made in 1944 the thread was M8. So it must of bean replaced in its life.

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So we replaced it.


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The Hot Citric acid bath.

All three were then removed and given a polish up with a brass wire wheel.

They are then placed on a hot plate to dry them out.
When spit bubbles on them, a mix of Oil and wax is applied.



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All 3 are ex WD tools, all stamped as well.

Hi brand new here, what is in the hot citric bath please.

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Hi brand new here, what is in the hot citric bath please.

Citric acid powder, thats all.

 

[Just4Fun]

Citric acid powder, thats all.

Really?
I am reminded of the first time I used animal hide glue pellets. I was told I only needed to heat them to create the glue. Following this advice failed completely until I added some water to the pellets. Don't you have to add water to the Citric acid powder?

 

[Jester129]

Yes, you have to add water, hot water, and of course being just as facetious, the components you wish to de-rust.
I will let others tell you the ratio of powder to water. HTH

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Yes, you have to add water, hot water, and of course being just as facetious, the components you wish to de-rust.
I will let others tell you the ratio of powder to water. HTH

I use 1 table spoon per liter of water.

I use hot water if I am in a rush, or just leave the items to soak until the red oxide is black oxide.

 

[pe2dave]

The 'Ah ha' moment for me was using an oil/wax mix to treat them?
any more on this please?

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

The 'Ah ha' moment for me was using an oil/wax mix to treat them?
any more on this please?

I melt Bee's max and add linseed oil until it is a thick cream mix.
Allow to cool and add White spirit to the mix.

This should leave you with a butter like mix.
I apply it to warm metal, allow to cool and buff.

 

[pe2dave]

I melt Bee's max and add linseed oil until it is a thick cream mix.
Allow to cool and add White spirit to the mix.

This should leave you with a butter like mix.
I apply it to warm metal, allow to cool and buff.

Thanks for that.

 

[pe2dave]

@The_Yellow_Ardvark - what ratio wax /oil please?

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

@The_Yellow_Ardvark - what ratio wax /oil please?

Approx 3 to one.
3 wax and 1 oil.
But that can change as I use different bees wax.
from a friend who keeps about 20 hives.

 

[pe2dave]

Approx 3 to one.
3 wax and 1 oil.
But that can change as I use different bees wax.
from a friend who keeps about 20 hives.

Thanks for that!
So you can't order direct from the bees then ;-)
.. I should ask, is that by volume (one solid, one liquid) or
by volume once the beeswax is melted?

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Thanks for that!
So you can't order direct from the bees then ;-)
.. I should ask, is that by volume (one solid, one liquid) or
by volume once the beeswax is melted?

The Local bee's are nt taking Card payments.
Cash only.
By weight I tend to do it.

 

[BillHoughton]

Plus, they're usually worker bees; it's hard to find a hive with marketing bees, shipping bees, etc.

 

[carpenteire2009]

Nice job, just one observation of my own in relation to the hand vice. I have one of these in original condition and the bolt has a slight bend in it also and I think it's by design. I don't think the jaws would travel as smoothly if the bolt was perfectly straight.

 

[Thingybob]

Plus, they're usually worker bees; it's hard to find a hive with marketing bees, shipping bees, etc.

What about Simply Bee

 

[mcostello]

Or not to bee!

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

 

[Stanleymonkey]

Hot citric acid bath - just checking. Is it on a hotplate or just hot water at the start?

 

[The_Yellow_Ardvark]

Hot citric acid bath - just checking. Is it on a hotplate or just hot water at the start?

I do both.
Why?
@Cus I can.