Nice dovetail marker

[Alf]

Me, I need all the help I can get and I know it. :lol:

Psst.... So, d'you wanna buy my collection of DT marking gauges

No, I'm not so daft as to buy one - I made my own. :wink:

Cheers, Alf

 

[devonwoody]

These almost worked for me. You could flip them over and get the complementary angle from the same side of the board which was nice. The only problem was (as Alf alludes to) the straight section generally wasn't long enough to mark the 90° line across the end of the board.

This is the product I use BUT I wish Veritas had put a deeper 90 degree extrusion at the top and bottom (upto 3/4") it would then be perfect for me.

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

I've been using this little dovetail marker from Woodjoy (USA) for the past year. There was a very favourable review completed by Chris Schwartz in Popular Woodworking about a month ago.

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/attachment.php?attachmentid=5025

Woodjoy: http://www.woodjoytools.com/gall-meas.html

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[devonwoody]

I've been using this little dovetail marker from Woodjoy (USA) for the past year. There was a very favourable review completed by Chris Schwartz in Popular Woodworking about a month ago.

http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/attachment.php?attachmentid=5025

Woodjoy: http://www.woodjoytools.com/gall-meas.html

Regards from Perth

Derek

Derek: I notice there is a double line on the r/h tail

 

[ydb1md]

Derek,

I like Woodjoy's tools. I have their cutting gauge and while it's not perfect, I like how unique it is and it performs well.

I'll probably pick up one of their precision dovetail markers even if I make one of my own -- one can never have too many gadgets in the woodshop.

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

Derek: I notice there is a double line on the r/h tail

Woody

Isn't that interesting... well, slightly embarrassing. Long story cut short: about 14 months ago, shortly after getting the Woodjoy dovetail marker, I used it to mark out the drawers for a pine and jarrah chest for my (then) 11 year old son. This was a project that was entirely build by hand, mind you, but my concentration definitely slipped along the way, and I mis-marked the dovetails. There were half blind dovetails on the drawer faces and through dovetails at the rear. I cut all the drawers together after building the carcass:

I only noticed the boo-boo at the end. Actually, it didn't look too bad, and it still produced a strong joint, so I just left them the way they were:

The finished chest looked quite good and all joints and fittings have remained true. Here is another picture of the drawers:

And here is a picture of the completed chest:

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[ydb1md]

Very nice work Derek!

Was the string on the doorknob to help with loose teeth?

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

Was the string on the doorknob to help with loose teeth?

Thanks Dave. The string!! That kid was into tying string onto everything - his "****y traps"! It broke my heart to see the jarrah doors covered in posters, but it was (is) his bedroom and so I just left it all in place. :roll:

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[Wiley Horne]

Greetings to all,
Derek, I have always liked the warmth exuded by that chest. Really very evocative of what it feels like to be a kid growing up. Not to mention it really holds a lot of stuff. Which is an idea that sometimes gets lost in modern art furniture.
On the original idea of the jig.....May I start with a question: Is there any consensus in the UK as to 'tails first' or 'pins first'? The original photo of the gauge illustrated a 'pins first' approach. Now, if the gauge had been shown marking the tails board, the 'running off the edge' issue probably would not have arisen, because the tails could be marked at either end with the gauge fully supported on the board.
Now I like to go tails first. And one of the advantages of going tails first is that you can gang the tails for sawing--for example, gang both drawer sides, or 4 drawer sides for that matter, if you have a pair of similar drawers. Is this a typical practice in the UK? I find it makes sawing more accurate, because of the longer reference lines across the end grain of the ganged boards. I'll try to post photos if there is interest.

Wiley

 

[MikeW]

...May I start with a question: Is there any consensus in the UK as to 'tails first' or 'pins first'? Wiley

Any other board I would say this thread could require popcorn...

Ah heck, think I'll go pop some up.

Take care, Mike

 

[Alf]

Is there any consensus in the UK as to 'tails first' or 'pins first'?

Of course; there's only one way to do it after all.

Cheers, Alf :-# :wink:

 

[ydb1md]

Is there any consensus in the UK as to 'tails first' or 'pins first'?

Of course; there's only one way to do it after all.

Cheers, Alf :-# :wink:

Of course there's only one way to do it . . . the way that you're most comfortable with.


Mike, can you pass the popcorn?

I'll go tap the keg . . .

 

[AndyBoyd]

I also use a woodjoy but a slightly different one.
http://www.woodjoytools.com/dvtlsq.html
It allows you to flip it so avoid the lack of support at the edge of the board.

I'm delighted with it, a prize addition to my tool cabinet

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

... one of the advantages of going tails first is that you can gang the tails for sawing--for example, gang both drawer sides, or 4 drawer sides for that matter, if you have a pair of similar drawers. Is this a typical practice in the UK? I find it makes sawing more accurate, because of the longer reference lines across the end grain of the ganged boards.

Hi Wiley

Thanks for the kind words - I think I have done those pics to death! (But finally I know where the "boo-boo" dovetails began! Nice pickup Woody.

To your question: In Oz this is not usual practice I suspect, simply because I posted this method on the local forum several months ago, and it appeared to confuse all. Obviously I agree with you since it is what I do (now, that is, not when the above pics were taken).

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[devonwoody]

Derek:

Show those Americans your shoulder cutting jig. (As we are on dovetails)

I wouldn't be without mine. I even use it on tenons.

 

[bugbear]

...May I start with a question: Is there any consensus in the UK as to 'tails first' or 'pins first'? Wiley

Any other board I would say this thread could require popcorn...

Ah heck, think I'll go pop some up.

Take care, Mike

Do you read fark.com perchance, or is that reference more common that I thought?

BugBear