New Veritas plane UKW exclusive announcement

[Paul Chapman]

Very nice.

With the material it's made from, it looks like Philly has, at last, found a plane that doesn't suffer from 'Rusty Finger Syndrome' 8) 8)

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[woodbloke]

Wow :shock: - I think they look fantastic. Having read Philly's review the standard offering LN looks positively mundane by comparison. It's probable a little unfair to put both side by side as the new Veritas is nearly twice the price - Rob

 

[Mr Ed]

From a specification point of view the new plane seems to tick all the boxes and the new material is certainly interesting.

I may be a lone voice on this, but the aesthetic is not something I immediately love. In Phillys pics, if you look beyond the shiny-ness of the new LV plane I actually prefer the appearance of the LN. I speak here as someone who likes the look of the other Veritas planes to date, so I'm not harking back to some historical reference point.

Performance wise I am sure its excellent, I would expect nothing less of Lee Valley. I'd love to try one, but as the owner of what I thought was an expensive block plane (LN 60.5) I'm not sure I can see me making another premium block plane purchase.

What I think is highly commendable is that there is a manufacturer out there who is prepared to make the investment in R&D to bring new premium products to the woodworking market, for which I salute you Rob Lee.

Cheers, Ed

 

[tnimble]

I may be a lone voice on this, but the aesthetic is not something I immediately love. In Phillys pics, if you look beyond the shiny-ness of the new LV plane I actually prefer the appearance of the LN. I speak here as someone who likes the look of the other Veritas planes to date, so I'm not harking back to some historical reference point.

I'm with you on the DX60, but not for the NX60 (which should be in the mail shortly). I don't think the photo's in Phillys review do a lot of good to either of the planes. (sorry Phil) Especially the LN looks erhm a pity, could be due to bad lighting and/or from fingers-o-death.

 

[frugal]

I wonder if the black material is coated iron, or the funky composite that is used for the back of the dovetail saw that Philly reviewed.

 

[Rob Lee]

(snip)

What I think is highly commendable is that there is a manufacturer out there who is prepared to make the investment in R&D to bring new premium products to the woodworking market, for which I salute you Rob Lee.

Cheers, Ed

Hi Ed -

Thanks for the kind comments... the designers will get them too...!

Cheers -

Rob

 

[Rob Lee]

I wonder if the black material is coated iron, or the funky composite that is used for the back of the dovetail saw that Philly reviewed.

Hi -

The black version is our regular ductile iron... the black suface is a polyester based powder-coat paint.... very resistant to chipping and wear...

I don't think we'll ever have the nerve to injection mold planes...

... at least....

... not for awhile....

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Cheers -

Rob

 

[Paul Chapman]

It will be interesting to see how the new plane sells. I can't see myself buying one because I have the existing Veritas low angle block plane and that works so well that I couldn't justify buying another. The recently introduced Veritas skew rebate, on the other hand, is ground-breaking in that it offers what no other fenced rebate plane on the market offers. That's where my money will be going when I can afford it.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[woodbloke]

Looking at the styling again, the design is just so slick and shiny it's positively eye watering, I reckon that J Clarkeson esq. ought to be the person to review them...which is a shame really as I'm the one doing them for F&C. Rob Lee has kindly sent me one (or both) to review for the mag, along with one or two other items of interest :wink: - Rob

 

[Rob Lee]

It will be interesting to see how the new plane sells. I can't see myself buying one because I have the existing Veritas low angle block plane and that works so well that I couldn't justify buying another. The recently introduced Veritas skew rebate, on the other hand, is ground-breaking in that it offers what no other fenced rebate plane on the market offers. That's where my money will be going when I can afford it.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

Hi Paul -

No worries - we'll keep you hopping with the next bunch.... should be more than six or so by June... if we keep to plan....

Small scraper pops up next...in the hand planes, at least....

Cheers -

Rob

 

[Paul Chapman]

Small scraper pops up next...

Now that sounds good - I like scraper planes 8) I look forward to it.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[Vormulac]

Looking at the styling again, the design is just so slick and shiny it's positively eye watering, I reckon that J Clarkeson esq. ought to be the person to review them...

Nice idea Rob, but you know full well he'd call it a 'Woodworking bat' and proceed to test it by hammering a screw in with it. :lol:

 

[paulm]

I may be a lone voice on this, but the aesthetic is not something I immediately love. Cheers, Ed

No, not a lone voice Ed.

I can see the appeal that the new styling may have for some/many, but way too bling for me too.

Don't doubt it's a very high spec and functional product, just wouldn't entertain it in my workshop irrespective of price, and I do like my upmarket and expensive tools generally, even if I didn't have enough good quality block planes already.

Likewise the new dovetail saw, excepting I can't see anybody liking the aesthetics on that at all, looks awful to my taste. I think if trying to hit a price point with that product I would have gone the whole hog and made the handle of the same material as the spine (and I think I saw pics of some like that somewhere ?). It still wouldn't appeal to me but would be a bit less messy looking than the combined wood/composite version which grates a lot for me.

Not wanting to knock one of the few innovative hand tool companies out there, and I do like the functionality of the new skew rebate plane in particular, but I've never really warmed to the aesthetics of much of the Veritas product range generally and these latest offerings don't do it for me either I'm afraid.

I must be a bit of a traditionalist at heart I suppose, which is a bit of a shock as I hadn't thought that until now !

Anyway, best of luck with the new products regardless Rob, and hope you find that I am in the minority with Ed on this one.

All the best, Paul

 

[Smudger]

How about these - which I don't think were ever made? Blingblock.

I like them, its nice to see a fresh approach, but I couldn't justify the expense.

 

[Bentham Andy]

I may be a lone voice on this, but the aesthetic is not something I immediately love. Cheers, Ed

It's not just the price/functionality ratio that I mentioned in an earlier post that I find surprising but I also don't like the looks of it either.

Andy

 

[Derek Cohen (Perth Oz)]

Just to let you know I posted a link to my review in the Review Forum.

To save you going there ..

http://www.inthewoodshop.com/ToolReviews/VeritasPremiumBlockPlane.html

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[custard]

I don't want to appear as a party pooper but TWO HUNDRED AND TWENTY QUID for a block plane from Veritas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The whole point is that this plane is at a higher price point and build quality than previous Veritas tools - possible overkill quality, but some people like overkill, and will pay for it.

Think Toyota/Lexus if it helps.

BugBear

I've got a Lexus...but I doubt I'll be getting one of these!

Can anyone who has used this block plane comment on how it actually performs versus current LN/LV block planes?

 

[Rknott2007]

Who's brought one then??

 

[Karl]

My 2pence

Not long ago you could have bought a Clifton 7 for £8 more. I know the Veritas is made of different materials, but it is just a bit too rich for my liking. Can't really work out which market it is aimed at, but £220 for a block plane is steep (Although on the other side, Rob Lee does point out the high cost of the raw materials).

Styling - love it. It was pretty obvious from the silhouette on the Axminster advert at the top of the UKW pages that the "new" model was gonna be a block plane of sorts.

Interesting to see that Derek C (and others from what i've read) doesn't seem to think it performed any better than the "standard" LV LA block (which I have).

I'm just glad that I bought all my planes earlier this year, before the price rises :lol:

Cheers

Karl

 

[woodbloke]

Interesting to see that Derek C (and others from what i've read) doesn't seem to think it performed any better than the "standard" LV LA block (which I have).

Cheers

Karl

Karl - in the same way that a Holtey S98 will probably perform no better than a LV BU smoother...but then which would you rather have sitting on your bench, always assuming of course, that you (read I ) could afford a Holtey? In my view, the new LV block (the shiny one) is firmly pitched in Holtey country and at an affordable price...if you want to push the boat out a bit - Rob