new triton tool

[tomm41pvm]

Anyone seen the new triton duo dowel jointer? At £135 looks like a possible alternative to a domino. Its definitely a lot cheaper than the Mafell too. Will be interesting to see a review of it.

 

[powertools]

A few years ago B&Q used to sell a tool called a Dowel Joiner very similar to this and I purchased 2 of them on a clearance sale.
They are my most used power tools and have almost completely replaced my biscuit joiner but I doubt the Festool fans will see it as a replacement for the Domino and it probably is not due to the lack of adjustment for width but for the money go for it.
There is a B&Q version on ebay at the moment for £40

Just to add the ebay one is nothing to do with me.

 

[nev]

New triton tool here too, probably of more interest to the over 55's.

 

[RossJarvis]

New triton tool here too, probably of more interest to the over 55's.

Drrroooooolll! I'm not 55 yet, but I'd have one, I'm sure it's cheap enough to get two, one for each buttock

 

[powertools]

New triton tool here too, probably of more interest to the over 55's.

Blimey Nev.
I'm over 55 but that thing makes the dado head on the RAS and the flapping belts on the 30 year old Kity machine look positively safe.

 

[nev]

sorry i hijacked the thread Tom, but I was on that page just before logging in to UKW and then saw this post and couldnt resist. I'm not yet 50 but a misspent youth on motorcycles never really disappears, and i remember drooling over what were then classic bikes (i.e. old) so thought it may be of more interest to those of a certain generation.

 

[mailee]

That's my next bike sorted then! I am over 55 so no problem there. :lol:

 

[CHJ]

Wish I still had my Domi 88 featherbed, drop short H/B Reg. ROH 801. there again probably safer playing with some dowels.

 

[tomm41pvm]

sorry i hijacked the thread Tom, but I was on that page just before logging in to UKW and then saw this post and couldnt resist. I'm not yet 50 but a misspent youth on motorcycles never really disappears, and i remember drooling over what were then classic bikes (i.e. old) so thought it may be of more interest to those of a certain generation.

Dont worry about it, I must admit I much prefer older bikes and I'm only 29!

 

[marcros]

the trouble is, in my mind anyway, is that dowels are not a particularly strong joint when assembled- I would have thought that a biscuit joint or domino would be many times stronger. Of I had the cash, I would go for the domino, if i didnt, i would go for a biscuit jointer and a pocket hole jig

 

[RogerP]

the trouble is, in my mind anyway, is that dowels are not a particularly strong joint when assembled- I would have thought that a biscuit joint or domino would be many times stronger. Of I had the cash, I would go for the domino, if i didnt, i would go for a biscuit jointer and a pocket hole jig

In fact dowel joints are very strong. Biscuits are not very strong, okay for aligning but not much more.

According to this testing ... http://www.dowelmax.com/jointstrength.html dowels are the strongest of the joints tested.

I'm a bit suspicious of the tester's impartiality but nevertheless ....

 

[Flynnwood]

the trouble is, in my mind anyway, is that dowels are not a particularly strong joint when assembled- I would have thought that a biscuit joint or domino would be many times stronger. Of I had the cash, I would go for the domino, if i didnt, i would go for a biscuit jointer and a pocket hole jig

In fact dowel joints are very strong. Biscuits are not very strong, okay for aligning but not much more.

According to this testing ... http://www.dowelmax.com/jointstrength.html dowels are the strongest of the joints tested.

I'm a bit suspicious of the tester's impartiality but nevertheless ....

Worth a read imo:

http://woodgears.ca/joint_strength/index.html

http://woodgears.ca/joint_strength/dowel.html

http://woodgears.ca/joint_strength/glue_methods.html

 

[marcros]

i stand corrected then. Personally, I would have limited faith in dowels because of the lack of long grain contact, but perhaps I have been misinformed or have misunderstood.

 

[RogerP]

i stand corrected then. Personally, I would have limited faith in dowels because of the lack of long grain contact, but perhaps I have been misinformed or have misunderstood.

... but they're all long grain contact - same as a tenon :?

I think folk can get a little confused as to what is meant by "long grain contact". It doesn't mean that in each touching piece the grain has to run in the same direction they can also be crossed or any angle in-between. It's still the long fibres of the two pieces of wood in contact with each other.

 

[graduate_owner]

I thought biscuits were really strong. I remember a reader's question in some woodworking magazine asking about the strength of biscuit joints that were part of the previous month's dresser or shelving unit or whatever. The "expert's" reply was something like - "yes, they are that strong, strong enough to support the entire .... of the structure". I can't remember the details now, but the reply suggested that biscuits were really very strong. Am I incorrect here?

K

 

[mailee]

I would have to say yes you are wrong. A biscuit joint is only really relying on the centre section for it's strength due to the curved shape of the slot and biscuit. I have joined pieces with biscuits in the past and torn them apart by hand once they had set. (And I am no Hercules) A joint constructed with two dowels would be far stronger IMO. Since buying a Domino I have found them to be a much stronger joint due to the amount of contact between both parts. JMHO. :wink: