New DeWalt 625

[Niles Crane]

Guys and Girls,

I will probably be ridiculed from a height for this, but I have just purchased a 625 and am very impressed indeed. However, at the moment all the router bits I have are 1/4" and I wasn't easily able to change the collet. Actually, I wasn't able to remove it from it's nut full stop.
Was I just being a little too careful with it?
The other thing was the soft start. I thought it eliminated any kick from the router, but when it was turned on there was a kick. Not massive, but I was holding the two handles and it still moved about five mill or so. It's not something I'd be overly worried about unless it's not supposed to be there.

Let the cries of derision begin :wink:

John

 

[kasandrich]

I bought a secondhand one of these recently, I have not used it yet.

 

[Paul Chapman]

I wasn't easily able to change the collet. Actually, I wasn't able to remove it from it's nut full stop.

It is quite difficult. I've only had to do it once and that was a long time ago so I can't remember now how I did it. Baffles me why they don't supply two collets complete with nuts so you don't have to faff about separating the two.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

 

[9fingers]

I expect you could buy a spare nut.

My Porter Cable/Flex router came with a nut for each collet - much more sensible than fiddling around swapping collets in the nut.

Bob

 

[Niles Crane]

Thanks for all the replies. A spare collet nut seems like a good solution.
I take it the little bit of kick back is par for the course then?

John

 

[L Harding]

Baffles me why they don't supply two collets complete with nuts so you don't have to faff about separating the two.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

Festool do... :wink:



Luke

 

[mailee]

Yes there is a very slight kickback to them but nothing like it should be with a 2HP motor. As for the collet nut I have never changed mine so can't help you I am afraid.

 

[Niles Crane]

Yes there is a very slight kickback to them but nothing like it should be with a 2HP motor

Sound of deep sigh of relief
Was a bit worried as the 1200 W I have doesn't have a soft start (as far as I know) and there's no kick at all. It may as well be made by Fisher-Price though :wink:

 

[9fingers]

Yes there is a very slight kickback to them but nothing like it should be with a 2HP motor

Sound of deep sigh of relief
Was a bit worried as the 1200 W I have doesn't have a soft start (as far as I know) and there's no kick at all. It may as well be made by Fisher-Price though :wink:

I think it much have a soft start built in other wise 1200w (>1.5hp!) would kick noticeably.

Bob

 

[p111dom]

Baffles me why they don't supply two collets complete with nuts so you don't have to faff about separating the two.

Cheers :wink:

Paul

Festool do... :wink:



Luke

They do buy mine was sypplid with a 1/2 inch and an 8mm one and I'm in the same boat needing a 1/4 inch collet. I have a spare but can't tell if the collet it machine specific and don't want to turn the machine on to find it's not gripped the bit securely.

 

[Digit]

If it has a soft start there will be a multi stage run up in speed that is very noticable.

Roy.

 

[jasonB]

You will get a slight kick when it starts, does depend on what speed you have it set at and the size of the bit.

I don't have a problem swapping my collets over, no need for another nut as it takes probably 1sec to pull it out and less to snap another size in. Tilt it slightly sideways rather than trying to pull it out straight.

Jason

 

[ColeyS1]

Hi John, sorry to hear you're having problems.

My work mate always moans when he goes to use my dewalt 625, as its more of a sudden nudge than a soft start. He has the older but identical looking elu one, which does have a nice gently soft start :evil: I'm guessing its just something dewalt didn't get quite right.

As for the removing collets, i know exactly what you mean. There a complete pain in the back side to remove. Think i read somewhere, that some people have a suitably sized hole drilled in there bench for this reason. Then you push the collet into the tight hole, which should release it :-k

Im yet to drill the hole at the moment and usually rest the collet on open vice jaws and give a tap with a bit of dowel.

Best of luck

Simon

 

[maltrout512]

If the collet is the same as the trend t10/11 then all you do is hold the nut in your lefthand, squeeze the collet with your righthand, pulling collet to one side of nut and pull. Collet now separate from nut. To re fit push collet into nut until it clicks in.

 

[OPJ]

My Freud router has a similar problem; they only supply one nut for two collets. When I can get the collet out by hand, I sit rest the nut sitting over one of the dog holes in my bench and, using a large bolt, punch the collet out with the tap of a hammer. Then, I only have to make sure I know where it falls! :wink:

If you think these routers kick a bit, you should try using a dirt-cheap £20 router!!

 

[ColeyS1]

John, seems a 5/8 hole should do the trick.

The collets not half as difficult to remove from when it was new. Must have worn a little. The nut falls off if you push it into the 5/8 hole enough :wink:

hth

Simon

 

[Niles Crane]

Guys,
Thank you very much for all the info, especially Simon. Very good of you to go to that much trouble.

Olly: The 'Fisher-Price' toy I referred to earlier was about £20, which is why I decided to squander the college fees for any future offspring on the DeWalt. It wasn't much of a decision to be honest. :wink:
Perhaps the listed 1200 W motor in the toy isn't quite the same as 1200 W produced by other manufacturers, explaining the lack of a kick.

 

[Jamesc]

I'm not familiar with your particular router but it sounds like the collet is based on the ER system which started life as an engineering standard. There is a knack to getting these on and off. Google ER collet removal will bring up plenty of instructions. A good one can be found here http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Collets/ER-Collets-Collet-Chucks/ER16-Collets-Collet-Chucks

Hope it helps

James

 

[Eric The Viking]

Guys,
Thank you very much for all the info, especially Simon. Very good of you to go to that much trouble.

Olly: The 'Fisher-Price' toy I referred to earlier was about £20, which is why I decided to squander the college fees for any future offspring on the DeWalt. It wasn't much of a decision to be honest. :wink:
Perhaps the listed 1200 W motor in the toy isn't quite the same as 1200 W produced by other manufacturers, explaining the lack of a kick.

The DeWalt is very similar to the Trend ones. Google "Miles Tools and Machinery". I had exactly the same problem with my new T11 (which is brilliant, by the way), and bought a spare nut from them at a fraction of the 'accessory' price. Like you, I can't see the point in faffing about trying to prise the collet out, except very occasionally for cleaning. It's far faster just to swap both together.

Miles also do 8mm collets etc. I'd be amazed if the Trend stuff doesn't fit.

Cheers,

PS: There was a thread on this a while back with a link I posted to the Trend part # on Miles' site.

 

[ondablade]

Hi guys. Another take on the DW625. I may want to buy a second router to leave in my as yet unused Woodrat, and have been fairly casually pricing DW625EKs and similar to check out the lie of the land.

Does anybody have any idea what the story is on the specification/evolution/changes in successive models?

So far as i can tell they now have a height adjuster much like the route Raizer i bought for my late 1990s model. Is there anything to watch out for as regards the spec/risk of getting landed with an old spec model?

There is a 3hp 625 in the US (maybe just the result of 60Hz power), and a 2.3 kW DW626 which seems like it might be a metric chuck sized model - it doesn't seem like there's any particular reason to go for anything like these in that the Woodrat is said to be designed to suit the 625EK, but is this true?