Neighbours, who needs them
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Tony and Dan.
Sadly this started the day we moved in, first it was "you have children, oh we dont like them, so no noise after 5pm", then came the you can't dig that shrub up in your garden and we will tell you what you can put in and where ( this is literal not imaginative), then came the "I want to park my car in your garage when you put it up as my carport has no windows or doors, it doesnt attract council tax like this", then the driving up and down the road crawling past our house to intimidate as he stared through our windows, then came the throwing rubbish into our garden, then came the throwing large sanitary pads into it ( the kind incontinet people use) then the deliberate blocking of drains with them, then the sexual harrasment of our 10 year old daughter ( who started puberty early and was well developed) and the staring into her bedroom who now has to live with her real father to get away from this bloke, police comment "we can do nothing unless we can catch him", Then came the 8 year we walk on eggshells and say nothing not even a whipser from fear of his actions, do I lie, or exaggerate, no not at all, you would have thought untill last week that no one lived here, oh yes then there was the complaint to the council about how our tv ariel blew up his wifes stair lift and we got a solicitors letter about that, and then the letter from the council demanding we take it down or face legal action, I could go on and on and list everything, but whats the point, there is indeed two sides too an argument, however I do not exagerate when I say we do and did nothing to bring any of this on ourselves except move next door to a spitefull nasty small minded alcoholic who acts like the squire with a right to lech women etc, he is the archtype of the village poison pen and a nasty evil bit of work, my family have lived round here for years he moved from gloucester yet tells us to go back where we came from, why is this occuring, let me give you a clue, he has 2 daughters who live miles away and a son who hates him, he wants his daughter with kids to get our house and is doing everything he can to get it, funny how they knocked our door 1 day after we moved in and asked if we would swap to a 2 bed house in scotland and when we said no the problems started.
As for starting my saw up on saturday morning, yes I did, for 8 years we have been able to do nothing, zilch, not breath or belch, I came to this forum and read a bit, then thought why am i living like this, I should be able to use my tools if i want, so I started my saw up, and he struck again, oh last time we got a visit from the council at get this 1am in the morning who got us out of bed to say they had received a complaint of drilling sawing and such from the loft and they wanted to check, I wasn't veryu polite and frogmarched him into the house and loft which you couldn't get into. He left telling us to ignore next door and live our lives as he has come across his type before.
My room is diagonally opposite his side of the house, it couldn't be further away, and if you stand by the fence my tools can barely be heard, I can in fact hear his matt munro records blaring away which is way louder than anything I could use, as I said I came here and looked around my room and thought why shouldn't I use them, so I did, once, and ww3 started. hurray.
If you think I exaggerate, heres an offer, come live in my house for one week and see. That is if you dont mind living in a tip, did I forget to say, we can't decorate, he complained he could hear the paint scraper or me hand sanding the paintwork, therefore I have a house a pig wouldn't live in, half done and too scared to do it.
I put a green house in, he phoned the law to say I was growing cannabis!!, they believed him and came snooping, sadly I no longer use my green house for anything. It sits in my garden with its coating of whitewash from 2 years ago doing nothing.
Anyway, I am sick of accomodating the fool, whilst he arrogantly struts about, why should I always be the one who treads like a mouse or darent use his garden,or let the kids in it, 7 + 5 and he intimidates them too so much so that they run in to mum saying their scared of him, or have friends over for fear he will start on them, or use my stereo, why can't I breathe.
Oh yes, heres another one for you, I had more tools than you could shake a stick at, I sold my compressor, tig welder, mig welder, lathe, wood lathe, and about another 10 thou + of kit collected over years, for the princely sum of £1200, to a man in the paper because of this guy, I knew it was going to be trouble if i used them, when this guy and his mate turned up to collect in a large luton van, the idiot next door literaly ran up and down the street telling everyone we were doing a moonlight flit because we couldn't pay the rent, the guys asked if we put up with this often......, oh yes and then we got told by other neighbours how he bragged he was deliberately doing it to get us out so daughter could move in.
Oh well, there you go
So maybe I shouldn't start my saw and just consider him.
Sadly this started the day we moved in, first it was "you have children, oh we dont like them, so no noise after 5pm", then came the you can't dig that shrub up in your garden and we will tell you what you can put in and where ( this is literal not imaginative), then came the "I want to park my car in your garage when you put it up as my carport has no windows or doors, it doesnt attract council tax like this", then the driving up and down the road crawling past our house to intimidate as he stared through our windows, then came the throwing rubbish into our garden, then came the throwing large sanitary pads into it ( the kind incontinet people use) then the deliberate blocking of drains with them, then the sexual harrasment of our 10 year old daughter ( who started puberty early and was well developed) and the staring into her bedroom who now has to live with her real father to get away from this bloke, police comment "we can do nothing unless we can catch him", Then came the 8 year we walk on eggshells and say nothing not even a whipser from fear of his actions, do I lie, or exaggerate, no not at all, you would have thought untill last week that no one lived here, oh yes then there was the complaint to the council about how our tv ariel blew up his wifes stair lift and we got a solicitors letter about that, and then the letter from the council demanding we take it down or face legal action, I could go on and on and list everything, but whats the point, there is indeed two sides too an argument, however I do not exagerate when I say we do and did nothing to bring any of this on ourselves except move next door to a spitefull nasty small minded alcoholic who acts like the squire with a right to lech women etc, he is the archtype of the village poison pen and a nasty evil bit of work, my family have lived round here for years he moved from gloucester yet tells us to go back where we came from, why is this occuring, let me give you a clue, he has 2 daughters who live miles away and a son who hates him, he wants his daughter with kids to get our house and is doing everything he can to get it, funny how they knocked our door 1 day after we moved in and asked if we would swap to a 2 bed house in scotland and when we said no the problems started.
As for starting my saw up on saturday morning, yes I did, for 8 years we have been able to do nothing, zilch, not breath or belch, I came to this forum and read a bit, then thought why am i living like this, I should be able to use my tools if i want, so I started my saw up, and he struck again, oh last time we got a visit from the council at get this 1am in the morning who got us out of bed to say they had received a complaint of drilling sawing and such from the loft and they wanted to check, I wasn't veryu polite and frogmarched him into the house and loft which you couldn't get into. He left telling us to ignore next door and live our lives as he has come across his type before.
My room is diagonally opposite his side of the house, it couldn't be further away, and if you stand by the fence my tools can barely be heard, I can in fact hear his matt munro records blaring away which is way louder than anything I could use, as I said I came here and looked around my room and thought why shouldn't I use them, so I did, once, and ww3 started. hurray.
If you think I exaggerate, heres an offer, come live in my house for one week and see. That is if you dont mind living in a tip, did I forget to say, we can't decorate, he complained he could hear the paint scraper or me hand sanding the paintwork, therefore I have a house a pig wouldn't live in, half done and too scared to do it.
I put a green house in, he phoned the law to say I was growing cannabis!!, they believed him and came snooping, sadly I no longer use my green house for anything. It sits in my garden with its coating of whitewash from 2 years ago doing nothing.
Anyway, I am sick of accomodating the fool, whilst he arrogantly struts about, why should I always be the one who treads like a mouse or darent use his garden,or let the kids in it, 7 + 5 and he intimidates them too so much so that they run in to mum saying their scared of him, or have friends over for fear he will start on them, or use my stereo, why can't I breathe.
Oh yes, heres another one for you, I had more tools than you could shake a stick at, I sold my compressor, tig welder, mig welder, lathe, wood lathe, and about another 10 thou + of kit collected over years, for the princely sum of £1200, to a man in the paper because of this guy, I knew it was going to be trouble if i used them, when this guy and his mate turned up to collect in a large luton van, the idiot next door literaly ran up and down the street telling everyone we were doing a moonlight flit because we couldn't pay the rent, the guys asked if we put up with this often......, oh yes and then we got told by other neighbours how he bragged he was deliberately doing it to get us out so daughter could move in.
Oh well, there you go
So maybe I shouldn't start my saw and just consider him.
Fight back, collect the evidence and go for an ASBO, don't give into the creep.
Collect witness statements and inform plod what you are doing. If necessary get them to state reasonable hours for you to work, talk to the council. Get them to check noise levels when you work, take pictures of him acting up.
NEVER give in to bullies.
Let him see that you have had enough, talk to other neighbours, if he's giving them grief as well it will help you.
Roy.
Collect witness statements and inform plod what you are doing. If necessary get them to state reasonable hours for you to work, talk to the council. Get them to check noise levels when you work, take pictures of him acting up.
NEVER give in to bullies.
Let him see that you have had enough, talk to other neighbours, if he's giving them grief as well it will help you.
Roy.
momo
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I have been but its never enough, plod seem to think neighbour problems are a waste of their time as do others when it costs them rescources, as for the neighbours well they tell me things but when you try to involve them officially they hide in the woodwork mate, they know him, they know if they say anything against him officialy he will target them in revenge.
We had a tape of one telling us X when we informed plod after another incident they denied it even though plod heard the convo. Go figure!.
Anyway, i'm leaving it here cos its getting a bit long now, I only wanted to vent in frustration, its getting like a saga from the archers!! ( not as much fun though)
We had a tape of one telling us X when we informed plod after another incident they denied it even though plod heard the convo. Go figure!.
Anyway, i'm leaving it here cos its getting a bit long now, I only wanted to vent in frustration, its getting like a saga from the archers!! ( not as much fun though)
Ther are laws to govern noisy neighbours so why not use them. You are allowed to make noise as long as it is not unreasonable. You could also use the law to your advantage as he is not allowing you yo enjoy the comfort of your own property. contact your council and ask them for advise or even complain about him. Don't let him do all the complaining, take the initiative, fight back. As for the sexual intimidation surely you have been to the police about this. they are keen on sexual harassment of children.Do any of your neighbours have problems? They might back you up. My next door neighbour's son repairs cars in the drive but as I use machines I reckon we even each other out.
chunkolini
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Hmmmmmm.
Chunko'.
Chunko'.
momo
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The plod, sort it out, is that between coffee and doghnut runs ?. seriously, the old bill dont want to know unless you hand them the crim with crystal clear video footage a DNA report and confession these days, anyone who has had anything to do with them in this way will tell you, unless they had an excellent copper who does his job without fear of the bosses.
Without getting political which I detest doing, how many of you ever had cars or tools stolen and got them back or went to court to give evidence because the thieving little scrote was caught. The police et al are so good that insurance companies are dropping their rates !!!.
No one gives evidence anymore because they fear some little rat firebombing them or such, and Mr general population seem to turn a blind eye or walk the opposite way. so what hope has anyone got of getting something done unless its a high profile thing like murder. I had my car and tools stolen a while back, it broke my heart to sell the ones I did and to then start buying bits and bobs to have that happen when unemployed was a big hit on me, the law didn't even want to take the car for fingerprinting saying everyone wears gloves these days and so its a waste of our rescources, I got a lousy £80 from the insurance company for car and tools.
Without getting political which I detest doing, how many of you ever had cars or tools stolen and got them back or went to court to give evidence because the thieving little scrote was caught. The police et al are so good that insurance companies are dropping their rates !!!.
No one gives evidence anymore because they fear some little rat firebombing them or such, and Mr general population seem to turn a blind eye or walk the opposite way. so what hope has anyone got of getting something done unless its a high profile thing like murder. I had my car and tools stolen a while back, it broke my heart to sell the ones I did and to then start buying bits and bobs to have that happen when unemployed was a big hit on me, the law didn't even want to take the car for fingerprinting saying everyone wears gloves these days and so its a waste of our rescources, I got a lousy £80 from the insurance company for car and tools.
OPJ
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momo":1g5xejq3 said:
Is this the only time his dog has suffered? Does it happen often? Do you have any evidence? You say that the Police don't want to know but you could always get in touch with the RSPCA, which could help get the Police invloved as well?
Sexual harassment is taken very seriously, as I'm sure you're aware (it was also mentioned by someone else). Any witnesses or evidence of this? It shouldn't matter if it was years ago; they're still locking people up for sexual offences committed over 20 years ago!
Seriously, don't give in to this guy, that's exactly what he wants, to get the better of you!! I cannot imagine you're wanting to do anything in a different way to any other woodworker, so get out there and make some sawdust! If he sends the Police round, let them see what you're doing fine. If he does it again, and keeps calling them out for the same thing, HE could get done for wasting Police time!
I know what you mean about people sticking their heads in the sand, but surely they can sign anonymous written statements?
I can understand and accept people who are are generally unhappy but you shouldn't have to put up with someone as sad, bitter and twisted as this!!
neilyweely
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God helps those who helps 'emselves!!! :twisted:
chunkolini
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Yawn.
Chunko.
re the polis and 'drugs'. I once went to the law about drug dealers and there is a whole procedure they go through before they go knocking on doors. Ie I had a number to quote, a 'name' they used, they wanted names, registration numbers etc etc.
Ps When I were a lad I had to live in hole in t' rord, and there were a bike gang living next door and they ate the cat.
Trollus Internettus
Chunko.
re the polis and 'drugs'. I once went to the law about drug dealers and there is a whole procedure they go through before they go knocking on doors. Ie I had a number to quote, a 'name' they used, they wanted names, registration numbers etc etc.
Ps When I were a lad I had to live in hole in t' rord, and there were a bike gang living next door and they ate the cat.
Trollus Internettus
momo please don't give up, this is a terrible situation and I really feel for you but at the end of the day you have to live your life and you don't want to be sitting when your 70 thinking of all the years your life was put on hold due to this complete cretin...
The police have a duty to you to follow up any complaint you have and as for sexual harassment they should be straight onto it and if there not then go higher don't stop at a phone call or just popping into the front desk ask for an appointment with the chief inspector and tell him your story...
As for the council make an appointment with your local MP they can kick some ass, the council and police do like people to gather evidence this mainly involves keeping a diary of events with a description of the event date and time and any CCTV, photos for some reason don't hold much weight!
I wish you all the luck in the world, I consider myself very lucky as my neighbors are fine here but it brings it home how much we take it for granted...
The police have a duty to you to follow up any complaint you have and as for sexual harassment they should be straight onto it and if there not then go higher don't stop at a phone call or just popping into the front desk ask for an appointment with the chief inspector and tell him your story...
As for the council make an appointment with your local MP they can kick some ass, the council and police do like people to gather evidence this mainly involves keeping a diary of events with a description of the event date and time and any CCTV, photos for some reason don't hold much weight!
I wish you all the luck in the world, I consider myself very lucky as my neighbors are fine here but it brings it home how much we take it for granted...
TheTiddles
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God I feel, so, so sorry for you. I have had bad neighbours, not nearly that bad and not for very long but it will totally ruin your life, there's almost nothing you can do and almost nothing the authorities will do. The only hope is they contract a painfull illness that doesn't kill them too fast and they can suffer something comparable to what they have put you through, here's to hoping.
Personally I have told my neighbours several times that if they ever get pissed off with the noise please tell me, I never want to put anyone through that, so far I have never heard it mentioned. That said I live in a lovely place full of lovely people.
How much is a contract killing these days?
Personally I have told my neighbours several times that if they ever get pissed off with the noise please tell me, I never want to put anyone through that, so far I have never heard it mentioned. That said I live in a lovely place full of lovely people.
How much is a contract killing these days?
momo
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ok, as someone in another part of the forum wanted me to give you a pic of him here it is, I havent put the full url in case the mods beat me to death with a blunt table leg, so your going to have to fill it in. Oh and theres some pics there of the wife, and my two boys and my 4 eldest daughter who moved to france with her grandparents to get away from it all.
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TheTiddles":3h7d4ltm said:
To be honest, that was my thought.
5 grand?
Problem sorted!
I have to say though, if this was my neighbour it wouldn't only be his wife who needed a stairlift to get upstairs.
Cheers
Dan
kafkaian
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I've had good and bad. In the early days of our first bought house post studenting we had, Little Bo Peep on the one side and she said nothing by rightfully complained after a day hacking plaster off the wall, but the other side was a nightmare.
All night parties, hanging-chandelier and alternative sexual activities...
This time around both sides are very quiet and I only use power tools for a few hours at a time and never after 5pm (like someone else)
All night parties, hanging-chandelier and alternative sexual activities...
This time around both sides are very quiet and I only use power tools for a few hours at a time and never after 5pm (like someone else)
momo
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I have to admit, I did think of moving back to Bolder near Lymington, or to Swimbridge in devon or to shepton mallet, then I figured maybe back to Bridlington or liverpool, and the wife said no way, so here we stay.
everyone else here is a sweetie as they say, --edited--by momo--. Apart from old alf garnett nee victor meldrew there is only the local junkie and his missus who cause trouble. Its mostly horse type people and their ok.
everyone else here is a sweetie as they say, --edited--by momo--. Apart from old alf garnett nee victor meldrew there is only the local junkie and his missus who cause trouble. Its mostly horse type people and their ok.
momo
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Hi Tony, yeah I have been there it was that site that pushed me into getting cctv up, mind you it was pointless, apart from collecting videos the old bill said" we can't use it as he will say he was merely - playing for the camera" whatever that means, I think it means he was acting for the camera and so of no use.
Losos
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Bodrighy":z8k9ccyk said:
Pretty much the same here - We have had horrible neighbours so when we up sticks and moved here to Czechland the one thing I was determined to avoid were neighbours.
Well we have foxes, polecats, wild pigs, and few other things and we do have some humans appear at the weekends but they are a fair way off.
