Monmouthshire Waggon

[Dalboy]

AES the model is going to be approxmatly 26" long by 7" wide and stand about 7 1/2" tall and is 1/8 scale.

I finished yesterday with having 4 cut outs to do on the rear bolster, I managed to complete these and stick that in place. as in the first photo

All the parts for the rear axle complete but not stuck in place as I will have to drill a hole in parts when I have completed the front axle assembly

Started the front axle assembly but on checking found out everything seemed to be equal from both sides so either the original waggon that the measurements were taken from was not perfect which could be the case considering when they were produced or an oversight of the drawer of the plans.
So the question is which do I use the plans or make the measurements equal across the piece in question. It is the bar running up and down on the left

Well I made them equal and started to drill the bolt holes after which 4 mortices need to be cut, but that is for tomorrow

 

[AES]

Thanks for the dimensions Dalboy.

 

[Dalboy]

Today I cut the mortices in the front support on the front axle assembly and also drill the hounds at the far end as well as the slider bar this will aid in marking out the tenons on the hounds as they are all different. You will notice in the first picture that one of the hounds does not line up with the drawing this is where I found the measurements out. Also notice I have numbered the hounds, as well as the Splinter bar as all the angles, are either different or mirror images of each other This is all that I managed as did not feel too good and came in for a rest.

 

[Dalboy]

Not done much the past few days but managed to get the tenons done on the end of the Hounds

followed by some marking out.

Drilled a hole for the dropper pin and found a piece of brass bar which will become the pin

In this picture you can see a Hound shutter laying across where it will be fitted. I need to cut through mortice on each of the hounds which need to line up so it can pass all the way through

 

[Dalboy]

Trying to get some shed time between doing the garden, which seems to take 5 times as long as it use to.

Anyway started the through mortices for hound shutter this was the first of four that needed cutting.

Two done with the hound shutter in place

Next up after completing all the mortices was to cut out for the front axle.

The next job was the cut outs for the guide bolster and also for the slider bar. With those done I did a quick dry assembly of the parts. There are still more cut outs to do on this assembly.

These last three photos show the assembly the correct way up as I have been working on it upside down

 

[Dalboy]

Cut some half lap joints in the hounds and slider bar followd by the first glue up of this sub assembly. The second photo gives an idea of the size of the joints

All dry and what it looks like

Hound shutter now glued

And the splinter bar glued

Next job will be to the parts on he right to have cut outs to fit onto the assembly and the base of the main cart frome

This is where I am at as of today

This is one of the reasons for slow progress it needs to be ready for Saturdays monthly club competition.

 

[Dalboy]

I have neglected this project for too long so today I cleared the workshop benches and other surfaces. The parts for the waggon are now on the bench so that I can get and complete it.

More to follow shortly

 

[Dalboy]

Made a start by cutting out lap joints on the swivel assembly top bar as well as the matching ones on the underside of the main waggon bed.

Glued in place and clamps removed

A quick photo of through mortice and tenon joints to give an idea of what scale I am making joints at

 

[Dalboy]

I have had to work from a book on this as the plans that I started with went into hiding as I put them somewhere safe after most of yesterday and an hour this morning of searching they were found. The book scale is different from the plans

Back on track but still not a great deal was done as it seemed to take ages to mark out and cut the first two mortice and tenons. If these are not at the correct angle it will put all the others out to make things worse the plans are slightly off as the two shafts are identical but when rested on the plans it shows the drawing has one longer than the other this is not the only mistake. Double checking everything, however, I do appreciate that when these waggons were originally built they made them without plans.


Tenon cut on the shaft cross piece, this is quite a long tenon as it has to pass through the shafts into the shaft braces

next was to cut the mortice for the tenon I tried to drill three holes in line but due to the size of the bit it kept trying to wonder off so I went with just two holes and then cut them out using a marking knife as even the smallest chisel I had was too thick to pass through. it was then cleaned up with needle files to the size of the tenon.

Dry fit of one side

As can be seen, both are now cut ready to mark out the shaft shutter this on the plans showed it protruding out one side more than the other. next job cut the tenon on the end of the shafts and mortices into the shaft shutter.

 

[AES]

This is shaping up to be another master work like that WWII half track Derek. More please.

 

[Dalboy]

This is shaping up to be another master work like that WWII half track Derek. More please.

Just getting back into this build kept getting moved around the workshop due to other bits being made. At the moment trying to make what I call sub-assemblies which when complete can just be assembled into the finished waggon.
There is still plenty to do including the wheels which I tend to leave until last

 

[Dalboy]

A slow day today first off i did another check of measurements and found that one of the pieces did not match the thickness of the shafts when I checked with the plans they showed them the same but the cutting list and diagram of the piece in question match what I cut it to.
Have now cut it as can be seen.

Marked out and then the tenons on the end of the shafts cut as well as drill the holes for the mortices. One tenon looks longer than the other and it is but will be cut to correct length later once it is assembled.

I also dug out some of the pieces that I had prepared at the very beginning as I am sure I will need them later.

 

[custard]

Really impressive work!

=D>

 

[Dalboy]

Really impressive work!

=D>

Thank you.

The grandchildren descended today but I have managed to get a little done on the waggon even if it is only a couple of mortice and tenons as well as some marking out of the shaft braces

 

[Dalboy]

Again very little done was hoping to have completed all the mortice and tenons on the shaft assembly but it was not to be but I did manage a couple.


Marked out and mortice cut

A dry fit and clamped to hold pieces in place ready for two more mortices to be cut need another clamp before final marking out

These are the tools I have been using to do all the work on this piece so the bench is staying quite tidy the only other thing I used is my trusty bench drill

 

[Dalboy]

May not look like a lot has been done but what has is time-consuming, cut the last of the mortice and tenons on the shaft assembly. Then assembled and did some fettling to make sure they all fit just right and close any gaps that needed it.

Took it all apart yet again and gave it a final clean up to get rid of any pencil marks which would be hard once assembled for the last time
The last assembly now on the way with parts being glued up the bar nearest to us is only there to keep it aligned while the first glued items dry.

I will glue some more up tomorrow and while that is drying I will get some more wood prepared I have managed to find some more Oak that is a match to what I have already used as I don't want too much of a mismatch.

 

[Dalboy]

I have glued up some more on the shaft assembly.

Anyway while that is sitting and drying I needed some more 1/8" thick pieces for the waggon sides and bed.

Started with this lump of Oak 3 1/2" X 2" X15" long. I would have liked to make the pieces the 3 1/2" but the grain was not looking right so went with slices off of the 2" side to give the effect I wanted.
I ended up probably with more than I needed I will mark them up and put them in the wood drawer for future models/toys

Marked up ready when needed

Cut down to the widest width I needed and also to length. I did juggle them around so that the grain was not lining up as I wanted it to be obvious that they are all separate planks. The edges have a small chamfer on them also to help show the joints. Each set of 8 planks were to wide for where they fit so some planks planed narrower so no two are the same.

A temporary guide fitted in place to allow the two end planks to be glued in place the guide then removed until they are dry this will give me somewhere to replace the guide for the next two and so on

It is surprising how long it takes to do what appears to be a simple job.

 

[Dalboy]

Had to bring the big clamps out for the shaft assembly two sash clamps. Still another piece to fit to this before starting on the metalwork

Started clamping the bed boards and throughout the day got them all on

While the shaft assembly and the bed boards are drying I thought I would start the sides and headboard, getting parts to match up seemed to take most of the time but pleased with the fit. All of the bed boards side panels and headboard are from Oak the plans say to use 1/8" ply which will not match the rest