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This Wagner L607 may be of interest to someone. Nothing to do with me - I just happened to spot it. I bought one on Ebay about a year ago for under £30 - cost new was nearer £300! The L607 isn't suitable for rough sawn timber, but I phoned Wagner in the US and their technical dept confirmed that provided you had a smooth finish (planed/sanded or scraped) then it would give as good a reading as the L608 that is designed to cope with rough sawn. I've been very happy with mine.

The "buy it now" price is a joke, but maybe worth a punt in the auction in the hope that there is no, or a low, reserve. I put in a snipe limited to £60 when I bought mine and got it for (as I recall) about £28.
 
Rich":2ag1uxu9 said:
Thanks for the reply, IB, I think I understand what you say even though you use a meter there is still guesswork involved, but how would the shipwrights in the time of Henry V111 have got on, they needed oak like there was no tomorrow when the spanish armada was coming, they must have had to use it green, in such a hurry, I'm not trying to distract from the thread but the old boys must have known something that we don't.

There was a good reason that they caulked ships hulls with pitch covered rope hammered in between the boards. Besides, for the hull that would permenantly be in the water the wood being green would not be a problem.
 
RogerM":37ohjdko said:
The "buy it now" price is a joke, but maybe worth a punt in the auction in the hope that there is no, or a low, reserve. I put in a snipe limited to £60 when I bought mine and got it for (as I recall) about £28.

If he has a buy it now price of £180, then he probably has a reserve price of about £150.
 
I got myself (for ocasional use) one from Westfalia mail order for a tenner. A pin style machine, it's a bit delicate, and made for general purposes, but gives you the idea with sensible readings from timber stacked outdoors in Devon (general RH 75%) and indoors in dehumidified workshop (55-60%RH).
 
Consider buying a decent moisture meter from the USA.
Moisture meters make ideal imports: relatively high value & low weight.

- Using eBay, ensure a private seller, as they are often happy to indicate item value low or “gift”.
- Make sure seller has excellent feedback.
- Postage via USPS works best because they link-up with Royal Mail in UK.
- Make payment using a credit card via Paypal.
This sets up your transaction for success with a safety net.

I did this for my Wagner 220 purchase a few years ago.
(I rate the meter highly – selected because it has digital display, with a 0.1% resolution – this makes it easy to observe changing MC, very handy for determining when the wood is in equilibrium with its environment)

And if you want to sell the meter in the future, selling a decent meter in rip-off UK, you’ll likely get all your money back!

Something to consider if buying a MC meter…
 
Just to offer a non expert view. The picture i seemed to pick up on meters while digging lately is that it's a horses for courses deal. There doesn't seem to be any single stand out unit, although there are several makes like Wagner, Lignomat and Electrophysics that seem very well regarded in the US trade and timber industry.

It's pretty clear these are all solid units, what's not so easy to figure is how good or bad (or indeed consistent) the cheap Eastern sourced units may be.

Woodweb (which has lots of members professionally into milling, kiln drying and wood processing) http://www.woodweb.com/ is the best source of expert technical articles and user feedback i too found on the web.

The no-pin variety seem to work well when you need to scan large lengths more quickly, but are fussier about surfaces and contamination. There's a view about that says that if you want to cover all the bases you need to buy one of both types.

After that it seems to be a lot about likely build quality, robustness, reliability and required features e.g. species compensation, temperature compensation, LED light VS digital vs analogue scale - most seem to read pretty accurately in a given set of conditions - even the very cheap ones.

Many moisture meters are sold for stuff like house surveys on concrete and so on, it seems to be important to carefully read the specification of whatever you are propsoing to buy and compare it to your exact needs.

Something to watch seems to be the max moisture content read by the meter - the cheaper ones seem only to go to 20 or 30% which is fine for dried timber, but if you are kiln drying it seems you may need one going up to 60% to track what's going on.

It's probably worth paying a bit more for a meter that will cover future needs too. e.g. i'm thinking of getting into a bit of timber milling and kiln drying.

The Lignomat meters are very well regarded - the MiniLigno DX/C caught my eye as it seems to offer all sorts of add-on accessories like a hammer-in probe and so on - not to mention they offer a deal to buy both types together. http://www.lignomat.com/MoistureMeter/m ... ni.DXC.htm

I've had problems before with Amazon.com (US) refusing to sell outside of the US due i presume to supplier agreements. Lignomat i think are European, i wonder if they can be bought cheaply on line in Europe??

The models sold by Axminster seem relatively unknown on the US scene, but that's probably not a big deal. That said it struck me as a bit odd that the Protimeter (which is made by GE) does not seem to be much known in the US, because they are certainly nice looking units....

ian
 
Errrr. Can anybody explain why my last post seems to have been reported to the moderator?????
 
Hi Ian - welcome to the forum, and thanks for such an informative first post. The links in your text have been caught by our SPAM trap, which will disappear after you've made a few posts.
 
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