Mike's finger joint jig

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Following comment in another thread about my finger joint jig, here are a few photos that show how it works:


I thought I might make a box out of scrap just for the purposes of this exercise:
Fingerjoint002.jpg


This is a top view of the jig:
Fingerjoint004.jpg


This is the under-view. The key thing to note is the register piece (arrowed), which either sits along the edge of the boards, or sits in the first groove:
Fingerjoint005.jpg


The jig is made for a specific follower, and a specific cutter:
Fingerjoint006.jpg


Workpieces clamped together and held in the vice. The jig is then offered up and clamped, with the guide hard up against the RH edges:
Fingerjoint007.jpg


Underview:
Fingerjoint008.jpg


Rout away! Sensibly you should use a bit of waste to prevent breakout, but I didn't bother:
Fingerjoint009.jpg


This is the result after the first position of the jig. I cuts out holes numbered 1, 3, 5 etc, so you then move the jig into its next position, with the guide in the first slot, to cut out numbers 2, 4 6 etc:
Fingerjoint010.jpg


Fingerjoint011.jpg


One completed end. It is perfectly possibly (and indeed more accurate) to do large numbers of pieces at once. I last used it to make 8 drawers at once, so doing all the sides in one go and all the ends in another meant 16 pieces each time in one pass:
Fingerjoint012.jpg


This helps visualise the setting up:
Fingerjoint013.jpg


Ah.........its all gone horribly wrong!!!!

The reason is that I used a new cutter, which I had bought as being the same size as an old one, but it turns out it is 9.2mm in diameter compared with 9.0mm for the old one.
Fingerjoint014.jpg


So, I am either going to have to buy a new cutter, or make a new jig. I may well do the latter, and machine it out of 6mm aluminum plate rather than MDF. But this give you an idea of how it works. With the right cutter it is beautifully accurate.

Mike

PS Box abandoned!!!
 
Interesting Mike. I can certainly see how useful it is for large batches.
 
woodsworth":7898ykhy said:
much easier with a woodrat in my opinion.

Ah, but that all depends on your point of view .....

Personally I can't justify a WR and far prefer to make my own jigs.

:wink: :wink:

Dave
 
It is only the truth, and quite frankly how many jigs does it take to justify actually getting proper tools for the job. I don't buy things lightly, my income does not allow it. So when i buy something it is because it is well worth it.

The amount of time and space in jigs and fixtures, tricks and treats isn't worth it in my opinion. A few basic well made tools, one being the woodrat or the similar and better router boss, will save you vast amounts of time, space and money.

and like i said it is only my opinion and a very valid one. The woodrat is not that expensive and allows a lot of joinery options that would take dozens of jigs and fixtures. I know you put in a lot of work to produce the jig and the thread, but isn't that the point i'm making? Not to disparage you but to illustrate the point.
 
my comment wasn't to you sorry if i offended i didn't even see your post when i replied
 
I'm sorry Mike, I've resisted for the last hour....
:lol:

Mine fits! I win! I win! Na, na,na-na,na,na! Ya, boo, sucks!

Nothing like upping the anti on a lonely Saturday night. Sad, isn't it?

S
 
He's got you there Mike!

I'm off to drop loads of money and time on a woodrat as it's clearly better than making your own for free.
 
That of course is a box joint!

Looked up finger joint and am now in the process of biting my tongue. :oops:
 
Steve Maskery":bedmwq0o said:
I'm sorry Mike, I've resisted for the last hour....
:lol:
Mine fits! I win! I win! Na, na,na-na,na,na! Ya, boo, sucks!
Nothing like upping the anti on a lonely Saturday night. Sad, isn't it?
S

I'll dig out a photo of joints I did using the correct cutter..........immaculate. But I have to give you the points this time Steve. I certainly lost!

Mike
 
Mike how is the jig actually made? Is there a trick to getting the spacing right?
 
woodsworth":1bcqxnjd said:
you won't regret it wizer :wink:

I bought a WoodRat, some ten years ago. (Or maybe even longer) I never got so far as to fit a router to it. I realised, too late, I didn't have a spare room in an old Schoolhouse! 8)

Neither could I see how I would cut dovetails on the ends of long stock without standing on a step-ladder. It was just too much hassle. I had it hanging around for when I could get 'a round tuit', but in the end 'store did become a bore' and I sold it on 'fleabay'.

I do think the WR is an ingenious piece of kit mind, but maybe not suited to my workshop. I have a yen to try another one, but my shop is in a mess ATM anyway. I might buy one when I can no longer stoop over my bench. (And that day is not far off methinks!)

John :)
 
Mike- good of you to post this given the outcome.

Benchwayze- How big a stock do you work with! My WR is 1,400 from the ground so I can cut dovetails on stock upto 1.4m long. The only thing I have made with dovetails on longer stock was my bench and even that I used the WR to remove the waste on the ends
 
wizer":i421r352 said:
Mike how is the jig actually made? Is there a trick to getting the spacing right?

I'd have thought that was obvious Tom. You use a box joint jig-making jig. :lol:

Bob
 
I never got so far as to fit a router to it

I can see how you didn't get on with it then. I really took a gamble getting it. I didn't have much money but i had some v notches to put in a window frames for grills.
Cottagekitchenwindow.jpg


These grills are only 1/2 inch and are on both sides of the double glazing, so the woodrat became so handy for cutting the groove on the window frame on the inside and then the glass stop on the outside. They had to be perfectly aligned which was easy to do with the woodrat. I did make jig to hold the pieces on the woodrat though lol...

Soon after getting the woodrat it became even more evident how many other things i could do with it instead of creating jig after jig. Sorry this is off topic. The simple genious of the jig shown here isn't lost on me, but i got my woodrat for £210 with a set of bits that are worth £85. At that kind of money it doesn't make sense to make so many jigs. One of my woodworking friends has a caravan on his property that he stores all his jigs in, even i have a lot of jigs over the years.
 
PAC1":3f0hztx4 said:
Benchwayze- How big a stock do you work with!

PAC...

Time to time, I would make a wide, low book-case using lap-dovetails in the top corners. The tails were worked in the top. Normally I would lay that at an angle in the vice, gripped by its sides, and use a dovetail saw. I only need slope the saw in one direction, and it's also easier to avoid 'nicking' the lap.

I thought if I was going to make many more of these cases, a WR would speed things up, (albiet I'd have to square the socket corners by hand). With short legs, I envisaged standing on a stool or something! Also space was a problem. A WR seems to need a clear wall devoted to it and in a single-garage I need the wall and floor space for other things.

I haven't entirely given up on the idea of a WR, as I might build a 1/2 brick shed in the backyard as a supplementary workspace. Seems a Woodrat could suit that remit!


Regards
John :)
 

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