large tool sale

[JonnyD]

Its not really my thing collecting planes but i came across this while looking at some machinery.

http://www.peacockauction.co.uk/pages/collectors-tools/

might be of interest to some of you.

Jon

 

[AndyT]

That's one hell of a collection!

One thing that surprises me is how low the guide prices are. For example, there are three boxed Record 405s listed at £40-60, and lot 311 is a mint Record 020 compass plane, in original box, with an estimate of £40 - 50.

These have been reaching £80-100 on Ebay lately and there's one there at the moment ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0131973307 ) which ends tomorrow afternoon but is already up to £216 !

This seems an absurdly high price to pay - or is that just me being tight?

Andy

 

[Ironballs]

Oh dear god, I think my slope has just taken a turn towards the cliff edge.

I've just had a look through ALL of the items listed, nearly 700 lots and some with multiple items per lot and they all come from the estate of a single collector, that guy must have invented the slope. He seems to have collected every decent quality plane ever made and then bought a few more of each for good luck

Even worse they have an online bidding system, I think I know where this years bonus has gone already. Jonny you're a bad man

 

[Ironballs]

Andy, I was looking at the compass plane on fleabay and wondering why it was so high, didn't seem any different from the others that have been going for 90 ish recently.

Guide prices do seem low but that might be to tempt people in as much as anything, if you get a few woodies and a few collectors in then those prices will be much higher - and there are enough rarities to draw the collectors in, Norris, Spiers, Stanley 51/52....

 

[David111s]

Hmm i've been watching that no 20 on bay i am shocked at the price!

However i managed to get a Stanley No 20 compass plane for 87quid the otherday, turns out it was origanly nikleplated and dates from 1900 to 1920.

not that it matters as its going to be used!

David

 

[Dave S]

One thing that surprises me is how low the guide prices are. For example, there are three boxed Record 405s listed at £40-60, and lot 311 is a mint Record 020 compass plane, in original box, with an estimate of £40 - 50.
Andy

If they set the guide price at what they really expect them to go for, no-one would actually bother bidding. :wink:

Dave

 

[Ironballs]

Exactly.

Won't stop me bidding though :roll:

Think I need a stern talking to from Mike G

 

[AndyT]

By way of a contrast to this huge, museum-quality collection which must have cost its owner tens of thousands of pounds, I came across this.

It's an article from a 1937 Woodworker magazine. One fuzzy photo and only a few words, about a collection of 200 planes, amassed at a total cost of $10.50 by a 17 year-old!

I suppose it goes to prove how things only get to be rare and valued when most people have tossed them out with the rubbish.

Andy

 

[Ironballs]

Impressive collection and he also stated that everything had been paid for through work done for paying customers. Industrious young chap.

I must say that if I do bid for and win any of those planes they'll not be sitting on a shelf and will be put to use.

Looking through the auction list the only major omission from his collection seems to be a Holtey plane

 

[neilyweely]

this is my local auction, and I can tell you the stuff is all A1. I have seen some of it. However there is a LOT of interest and will be international bids.

Peacocks is great. come and have a look. It should be a hell of a sale!!


neil

 

[mahking51]

Certainly seem to be some choice kit there. I feel a trip 'oop north' coming on....
Martin

 

[AndyT]

No need to travel - you can listen to the auction live, and bid on-line from your pc! It's too easy!

 

[bugbear]

Andy, I was looking at the compass plane on fleabay and wondering why it was so high, didn't seem any different from the others that have been going for 90 ish recently.

Guide prices do seem low but that might be to tempt people in as much as anything, if you get a few woodies and a few collectors in then those prices will be much higher - and there are enough rarities to draw the collectors in, Norris, Spiers, Stanley 51/52....

Auctions do indeed tend to have low guide prices to tempt you in.

However, at such a large specialist auction, I would expect the rare tools to go high - the infills etc - whilst I would expect user tools to be quite cheap.

Most tool dealers have more #4, #5's and #405's than they need.

If those sort of tools are your target, it might well be worth attending.

BugBear

 

[mahking51]

Re bidding online or by 'phone; great idea if you have seen and held the lots but cannot be there for the sale but anyone who bids blind for old or classic tools deserves whatever they get!

It is not unheard of for valuable bits and bobs to 'migrate' across lots or even magically leave the sale room before during and after the bidding.
Whenever I buy a pricey lot I have it placed behind the rostrum at once; salerooms are set up for this and it is normal practice.
Old tools need such careful scrutiny as things like chipped mouths and cracked castings are never mentioned in the listings.

Buyer Beware! as always.
Cheers,
Martin (who goes to the odd auction now and then)

 

[bugbear]

Re bidding online or by 'phone; great idea if you have seen and held the lots but cannot be there for the sale but anyone who bids blind for old or classic tools deserves whatever they get!

It is not unheard of for valuable bits and bobs to 'migrate' across lots or even magically leave the sale room before during and after the bidding.
Whenever I buy a pricey lot I have it placed behind the rostrum at once; salerooms are set up for this and it is normal practice.
Old tools need such careful scrutiny as things like chipped mouths and cracked castings are never mentioned in the listings.

Buyer Beware! as always.
Cheers,
Martin (who goes to the odd auction now and then)

Agreed and seconded in all regards.

BugBear (who lives within 1 mile of Gazes Auction Rooms )

 

[SPinonit]

Hi, new here and hope to pick up some good useful info from you experienced woodworkers, but a quick scan through the auctioneer's website shows another auction in Bedford during April. This one's a bit more general and is for modern hand and power tools. See here

 

[AndyT]

Welcome to the forum!

Your url has been caught by the anti-spaminator:

http://www.peacockauction.co.uk/pages/f ... oderntools

is what you meant...

...but that's not making it any easier!

Andy