lamp bulbs

[Digit]

I have no desire, or intention to be rude to anyone, Jockey was enough, but why are you all bothering with changing lamps etc etc.
IF CO2 is the culprit, not proven I might add, anything you do was wiped out last week with the release in India of their cheapo motor car.

Roy.

 

[devonwoody]

I have no desire, or intention to be rude to anyone, Jockey was enough, but why are you all bothering with changing lamps etc etc.
IF CO2 is the culprit, not proven I might add, anything you do was wiped out last week with the release in India of their cheapo motor car.

Roy.

You are in many ways correct with your comment. Rich people will continue to spend their money anyway and wont reduce their consumption. And if they put prices up to slow down the rich people, low incomes will suffer the most.

Rationing will be the only way :roll:

 

[Digit]

Rationing will be the only way

I'm sure that the majority of people here are familiar with the fact that the Earth wobbles like a top. When the 'lean' is at its maximum the polar ice receives the maximum amount of solar radiation and the ice retreats. When the axis is at its most vertical the ice expands towards the equator.
The ice in the southern polar region is normally limited by the circulation of the oceans, in the north the land masses prevent this happening to a large extent, so the ice spreads further.
We passed the last maximum 'lean' some 12000 years ago, the end of the last ice age, and are now heading to the state when the ice will again advance.
We may need every drop of CO2 the Chinese can muster!

Roy.

 

[ike]

I'm sure that within 5 years, technology will bring big improvements in the efficiency of white LED's , and LED lamps in most formats will then be outselling CFL's. They still a bit dim and pricy for my liking at the mo.

I wish the car manufacturers would deliver their hard-won engine technology with more emphasis on economy than performance. Who needs a 300hp motor, or even a 150hp motor for everyday driving?. They are complaining about new CO2/km targets and how difficult it would be to meet them - bollocks! - they coould build family size cars tomorrow, that would do less than 120 g/km. My 5-year old car does it with a Tier 3 engine- hardly the latest technology - just a clever combination of aerodynamic improvements, gearing and high pressure tyres.

Save high performance for the racetrack - might save a few lives into the bargain.

Ike

 

[devonwoody]

What an interesting thread this is turning out to be.

I started it with light bulbs.

PS

(BTW I always thought the planet goes through seasons)
(and I suppose it has a life and death cycle as well)
(sound familar)

 

[Digit]

We're happy wanderers.

Roy.

 

[White House Workshop]

I've replaced 50% of the GU10 'bulbs' in my kitchen lighting with led's and although they're not as bright as halogens they are good enough for general use. Most of the halogens are 35W, and I reckon the led's are about 75% of their output - much whiter light, too, which takes some getting used to. Warm white led's are available - for a price that I'm not willing to pay. Incidentally, the led's are the same cost as the 'low energy' bulbs and use less than 25% of the low energy bulbs' power. There will come a point when we'll be able to light our whole house with no power consumption at all!

Where did you get the Led's from

Cheers

Tim

Tim,

B&Q stock them (at least in Farnborough). £8 for a pack of 2. There are a number of online suppliers but the ones with sensible prices are all in the US - the UK online sites want to charge £10 a bulb and up! US prices start at about $8 (£4) here: http://www.ledlightbulb.net/store/index.php
There are cheaper sites, but that one has the greatest variety.

One thing to watch for - the patent on white and blue power led's was held until 31/12/07 by a Japanese company and it has just expired so prices can be expected to fall this year. (My neighbour is a lighting architect - he lit Canary Wharf!)

 

[BradNaylor]

Good point but are you contributing to a recession?

I don't think anything you or I do is going to avert a recession.

Our glorious leaders and their friends in the City have ensured that!

 

[White House Workshop]

I wish the car manufacturers would deliver their hard-won engine technology with more emphasis on economy than performance. Who needs a 300hp motor, or even a 150hp motor for everyday driving?.

Good point, considering the average family car in the 60's had about 50 bhp! Anything more than that, a 0-60 time of under 10 seconds, or a top speed in excess of 90 mph was considered a racing car. Of course the cars back then weighed less than half what they do now - today all that safety equipment, gazillions of unnecessary accessories and bigger (heavier) engines...

I remember my Ford Corsair - top speed over 100 (downhill!), 0-60 in about 15 seconds and fuel economy of around 40mpg. It was big, comfortable and classy (for it's day). Probably spewed out a lot of pollutants too!

My car needs an MoT next month, and I see it has covered just 1820 miles since the last one. Sometimes I wonder why I keep it.