lamp bulbs

[devonwoody]

I have just purchased a box of 100 bayonet normal bulbs (trade) to fit my 9 lampshades.

Australia are phasing out the traditional bulbs (those funny shape long life bulbs will only be available shortly)

We are due to follow I heard the other week.

So if you want to keep your fancy lamp shades you had better get a stock of bulbs in? :wink:

 

[Smudger]

They aren't bulbs, they are lamps. See:

https://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21779

 

[Anonymous]

Bulbs are planted in the garden, incandescent filament lamps light up rooms

When I started out as an apprentice electronics technician too many years ago, you got a belt round the ear if you forgot that!!


Oddly, I find the appearance of energy saving lamps more attractive than traditional incandescent lamps

 

[Digit]

But sooner or later our idiot bosses in Europe will hopefully wake up to the fact that they have passed laws that will probably make the low energy lamps illegal to discard as they contain mercury.
I think they will be a passing fad to be replaced soon by LED clusters or Halogen lamps.

Roy.

 

[Jake]

Oddly, I find the appearance of energy saving lamps more attractive than traditional incandescent lamps

I lprefer the way they look too.

 

[BradNaylor]

Bulbs are planted in the garden, incandescent filament lamps light up rooms

When I started out as an apprentice electronics technician too many years ago, you got a belt round the ear if you forgot that!!

I would guess that 99.9% of people call light bulbs 'light bulbs', and always have done.

Therefore, that is what they are called!

Language evolves organically and naturally through common usage; the generally used noun applied to any item is just as valid as one given by it's originator or slavishly insisted on by pedantic electricians!

 

[devonwoody]

My grandma clled them bulbs, and I prefer them to the gas lamps.

Thats why they are called bulbs, to distinguish them from the gas contraption.

 

[Russell]

I wouldn't worry my sister is in the industry and there are some nice new low energy halogens that give brilliant light, quality look like a normal bulb, work with dimmers and generally be much better than the current low energy offerings you come across.

 

[devonwoody]

I wouldn't worry my sister is in the industry and there are some nice new low energy halogens that give brilliant light, quality look like a normal bulb, work with dimmers and generally be much better than the current low energy offerings you come across.

Yeah but I think halogen will also be phased out,(as in Australia)

 

[Russell]

Not the new types that are even more energy efficient. There is considerable development in this area. well not least for a few years yet. The new LED's will come on stream first the first generation ones are starting to come out in the market now but they will be superseded by better ones soon.

 

[RogerS]

So all that excess heat from my normal lamps/bulbs/lights (delete as appropriate) just makes my radiator thermostats turn down a bit earlier. So I burn less central heating oil which is (a) more expensive kw for kw than electricity at the moment and (b) probably not as efficient or as eco-friendly as Mr Generator.

Pointless exercise. Ban patio heaters. Make shops switch off their lights out of hours. Makes far more sense IMO. Ban low-energy, migraine inducing, mercury filled, dim, duff colour temperature low-energy bulbs instead.

I'll get me coat.

 

[Digit]

The whole excersise is pointless Roger, other than as a revenue raiser.
Why does this country tax oil products so highly when the same laws apply to the rest of Europe, Ireland actually susidises commercial diesel fuel.
If we zeroed our CO2 emmisions China would take up the slack in about a year, on top of which, in the past atmospheric CO2 has upto 5 times as high as currently, and the planet has been both hotter and colder with CO2 levels lower than currently.
A few years ago it was Aids that was threatening us all with an early death, then it was Mad Cow Disease, then it was Asian Flu and finally Bird Flu.
Repent, the end is nigh!

Roy.

 

[devonwoody]

You've got a point Digit.

I can recall going to speakers corner (that's Hyde Park, London) in the 1940's and speakers all had a date for the end of the world.

Now we have a modern end of the world and its called global warming!

The easiest way to stop global warming is to reduce everyones assets to a few pounds sterling and they have got nothing to spend to create global warming, except those that keep their riches and then there will be enough life left.

So take your choice be poor and stop global warming.

Or be rich and continue to heat up the planet.

Good job its my thread so can I hijack myself?

 

[BradNaylor]

Pointless exercise. Ban patio heaters. Make shops switch off their lights out of hours.

Chuck out the tumble dryer!

We gave ours away last year and have reverted to pegging out or using maidens in the house.

Our electricity bill has reduced by over £25 per month!!!

Nobody really needs a tumble dryer...

 

[devonwoody]

Pointless exercise. Ban patio heaters. Make shops switch off their lights out of hours.

Chuck out the tumble dryer!

We gave ours away last year and have reverted to pegging out or using maidens in the house.

Our electricity bill has reduced by over £25 per month!!!

Nobody really needs a tumble dryer...

Good point but are you contributing to a recession?

 

[misterfish]

I have just purchased a box of 100 bayonet normal bulbs (trade) to fit my 9 lampshades.

Australia are phasing out the traditional bulbs (those funny shape long life bulbs will only be available shortly)

We are due to follow I heard the other week.

I believe that it is only the ordinary 'pear shaped' 'incandescent lamps' (the things that I call 'ordinary light bulbs) are to be completely phased out. All of the other types will continue to be available as there are not yet low energy versions available that have the same dimensions and equivalent light output. I'm sure this will change over time.

I don't understand this sudden panic about disposal of the low energy bulbs/lamps - they are only (small) flourescent bulbs/lamps and flourescent strip lights have been available and widely used for years without any panic.

People need to be aware that the low energy versions behave differently to flourescents - they come on dim and increase to full brightness over a few minutes. Very few can be dimmed. They are more expensive to buy but much cheaper to run and work out more cost effective over their life time. I have replaced halogen spot lights (GU10 type) with low energy flourescents in my workshop - they give a more diffuse light and are not as effective as the originals. They also don't look so good as they protrude from the front of the fittings. I tried LED versions but they do not give anything like enough light to be effective. Things may change so that low energy versions can be used as a direct exchange lamp but so far that is not available.

Misterfish

 

[Anonymous]

Pointless exercise. Ban patio heaters. Make shops switch off their lights out of hours.

Chuck out the tumble dryer!

We gave ours away last year and have reverted to pegging out or using maidens in the house.

Our electricity bill has reduced by over £25 per month!!!

Nobody really needs a tumble dryer...

I am in the process of instrumenting up my house (my expertise is in instrumentation and control) and helping a friend finish building an 'intelligent house' and will let you know how much energy each device uses when the result come in if there is interest.

We might knock up a website to show energy usage and are looking at adding environmentally friendly energy sources such as small solar cells (last 2 years research work with a couple of my students has gotten 30% extra power from small (100*200mm) cells that cost very little)

 

[RogerS]

I am in the process of instrumenting up my house (my expertise is in instrumentation and control) and helping a friend finish building an 'intelligent house' and will let you know how much energy each device uses when the result come in if there is interest.

We might knock up a website to show energy usage and are looking at adding environmentally friendly energy sources such as small solar cells (last 2 years research work with a couple of my students has gotten 30% extra power from small (100*200mm) cells that cost very little)

That's interesting. Any chance of writing a blog about it?

Did those heuristic central heating controllers ever get off the ground? I'm referring to the ones that built up (over a period of time) a thermal model (if that's the right word) of your home and had both external and internal sensors. The model learnt that if the outside temperature was x degrees and you wanted y degrees inside at time z then it knew the latest time necessary to switch on the cenral heating sstem to meet that goal.

 

[White House Workshop]

I've replaced 50% of the GU10 'bulbs' in my kitchen lighting with led's and although they're not as bright as halogens they are good enough for general use. Most of the halogens are 35W, and I reckon the led's are about 75% of their output - much whiter light, too, which takes some getting used to. Warm white led's are available - for a price that I'm not willing to pay. Incidentally, the led's are the same cost as the 'low energy' bulbs and use less than 25% of the low energy bulbs' power. There will come a point when we'll be able to light our whole house with no power consumption at all!

 

[tim]

I've replaced 50% of the GU10 'bulbs' in my kitchen lighting with led's and although they're not as bright as halogens they are good enough for general use. Most of the halogens are 35W, and I reckon the led's are about 75% of their output - much whiter light, too, which takes some getting used to. Warm white led's are available - for a price that I'm not willing to pay. Incidentally, the led's are the same cost as the 'low energy' bulbs and use less than 25% of the low energy bulbs' power. There will come a point when we'll be able to light our whole house with no power consumption at all!

Where did you get the Led's from

Cheers

Tim