powertools":293pcp37 said:
The machine that you have shown in the photo with the table saw on it is the exact machine that I own.
I have no doubt that you have a lot of knowledge of Kity machines but I think my knowledge is of older machines that I own and predate a lot of items that you respond to.
The machine I own does not have a specific part number but is often referred to as a K5 or CK26 along with others but is different in many ways.
It was an amazing concept in that you chose to by the large table and then chose what machines you wanted to go on it and buy them over a period of time if you wanted to.
The options were for a table saw or band saw, there were 2 sizes of planer plus several other options that that you could add.
I'm not quite sure if you're trying in a polite way to say I'm wrong Powertools :?
The reason I know quite a lot about the early Kity machines is because in the 80s / early 90s I was branch manager for a company and we sold the full kity range alongside Startrite, DeWalt, Elu and quite a number of leading brands.
People might confuse the names but really should not. The basic principle on which Kity machines were designed is similar but early K5 and derivatives are a very different animal from the CK26 in size, power, intended market and what was available with the basic machine.. As I said and you also posted, the early industrial Kity was available as a base machine to which you could add individual components such as a bandsaw instead of circular, Planer knife grinder and other units.
I repeat, the machine was based on the 700 table and
was labelled depending on what was fitted at the factory, it was sold by us in it's usual base format as the Kity 704 and if with the morticer it became a 7042, add the grinder to that and it was a 7044. I can't be certain without checking what it was with the bandsaw but from memory I think was a 7036. It also differed depending which motor was supplied. If a customer bought a base model and added or changed units either at point of sale or later then there was virtually no labelling which is what causes confusion. The French system of identification was always hopeless, a bit like their cars.
If I'm wrong then I'd always hold my hands up as I've never professed to being an expert and I have no intention of arguing the point except to say we sold a fair number of machines, I was a hands on manager and have a good memory but I can also back up some of that info as I have some original literature.
I'm happy to send you a pdf copy of the 704 system if it's of interest to you as it seems from what you said you might have the 7044 version.
cheers
Bob
EDIT:
I've been thinking back and I should have said that the machines I referred to were the original concept and therefore MK1 but later in the 80s there consolidated the machine as they found that the vast majority were sold in standard 4 or 5 function mode, e.g. very few were supplied with bandsaws and in fact I can only recall one that we sold from my branch so the MK2 was introduced with straight leg table in base form as 4 function with option to add the morticer, other options such as the grinder, tenoner, drum sander etc. could be bought as accessories The MK 2 was labelled much more sensibly as a K704 mk2. Capacities were saw with a 75mm depth of cut, planer / thicknesser was 260 x150mm, moulder had a standard 30mm shaftand the motor was either 1.5hp single phase or 415 x 3 phase.
While I did visit the factory on one occasion and the rep visited every month our supplies came via Kity UK at Shipley near Bradford.
