inframe kitchen hinges

[lancey]

I am after some help looking for hinges. I've just bought a kitchen online its a lovely kitchen apparantly old stock magnet bakersfield inframe range. Problem is it doesn't come with hinges and the hinges that magnet now stock don't fit!!
The doors are approx 20mm and there is a frame and a lip on the door. Can anyone help with where i can get hinges to fit??

Thanks

 

[katellwood]

If they're in frame what about ordinary brass butts

 

[lancey]

Hi my kitchen fitter said you'd be able to see the barrel part of the hinge??

Thanks

 

[jasonB]

Wow much does the frame overhang the carcase by as this will determine what height mounting plate you need and the crank of the hinge.

Most likely the following plate with a standard 100deg cliptop hinge

http://www.hpponline.co.uk/Product/175H9190.22

J

 

[lancey]

Hi its 18mm

thanks

 

[jasonB]

http://www.hpponline.co.uk/Product/175H9190.22

with a standard 110deg cliptop hinge

http://www.hpponline.co.uk/Product/71T3550

but get one to check depends how old it is

 

[lancey]

Thats fantastic thanks so much for that.

Cheers

Lance

 

[JonnyD]

And if you want the same hinges and plates 40% or so cheaper buy them from here http://www.manddonline.co.uk/

Cheers

Jon

 

[lancey]

thanks for that did look but couldn't see the hinges on this other website..

Thanks

 

[JonnyD]

The websites not that easy to navigate these are the standard hinges http://www.manddonline.co.uk/index.php? ... ucts_id=97

Or you could go for integrated soft close http://www.manddonline.co.uk/index.php? ... s_id=12116

These are the plates http://www.manddonline.co.uk/index.php? ... cts_id=172

Cheers

Jon

 

[lancey]

Thanks so much for that will order today excellent...cheers

 

[RogerM]

Lance - I think you will need the CLIP TOP STANDARD HINGE 71B3750 if you are hanging doors inset in to a face frame with the raised base plate already recommended.

 

[mghisted]

I have bought the same kitchen on ebay and I'm having a nightmare. The issue is the rebate on the door, part of the door sits inside the frame the rest sits outside against the frame. I have tried the various hinges with 18mm spacers incorporated but the hinge doesnt kick the door far enough out to clear the lip from the frame.
Lancey if this works for you could you please let me know....my units are all up the wall has been tiled but I have no doors on!!!

If anyone else has any ideas....please please please let me know...my wife is gona kill me soon if I don't finish the kitchen!!!!

Many Thanks

Mark

 

[jasonB]

Is that also a Magnet one? post a picture or a sketch if you can. There are some hinges made of rebared doors, hettich certainly do some.

EDIT

Just looked at the Bakersfiled and the OP got it wrong these are not inframe doors they are rebated doors with a faceframe, post a sketch with sizes and then should be able to suggest a hinge

J

 

[mghisted]

Thanks for getting back to me sooo quickly I've attached a diagram that I made in photoshop.

 

[lancey]

Oh this is the same as my kitchen door yes your right a framed cabinet with a rebated door front looks the same as the one in this picture
Its def a nightmare mghisted. Same as you we've had the whole kitchen done but no doors on!! ONly thing is its very handy putting your arm in to get things probably miss that when or if we manage to get the doors on!!

 

[mghisted]

My wife wont see it that way!! Did you get your kitchen through ebay from someone in Essex? Have you tried getting hinges via magnet?

 

[lancey]

Ha i know it is a real pain yes i did nightmare he said the hinges for the buxton range in magnet will fit but they don't because i bought them and they didn't..we have tried putting a piece of wood inside where the mounting plates go and fitting a 170 degree hinge and that does work but we don't really want to do that especially on the glass door fronted cabinets....so annoying as the kitchen looks beautiful well it would if the doors were on..we just hoping the gys on here will come up with something..

 

[mghisted]

What make were the hinges you got the were 170 degrees. Where did you have to put the wood?
You can buy a dedicated mounting plate for the depth of the frame ...18mm I think and mount the hinge to that.
Have you tried magnet ? I was told they cost £34 a pair from them?

 

[RogerM]

Guys - here's a useful guide to the hinges in the Hettich Sensys range. Not cheap but fantastic quality.

It doesn't make easy reading but they cater for overlay, half overlay and inset doors. There is a section that applies to half-overlay doors on page 19. Your situation is also made more complex by the faceframe. I think I'd be tempted to wait until the new year, have a good read of the material and then phone one of the Hettich (or Blum) suppliers technical departments. If you can get some sense out of them, order just 2 hinges and mounting plates to see whether they will do the job before you make a full order. If they don't fit, you can always return them within 7 days.

Whichever manufacturer you go for it is likely that you'll need a block to sit under the mounting plate to bring it out to near the edge of the face-frame, to which you attach the mounting plate.

The link that JonnyD provided above shows a typical base plate from m&d online, who seem to be competitively priced. They also show a none premium rate helpline to call for FREE advice. It would seem like a good place to start.

Or if you fancy something from the Hettich range, try these people. As you've already drawn up the application you need the hinges to fit you could email that to them after making a telephone enquiry.

Again there is a free helpline. Also do ask Magnet which hinges they used. A trip to one of their showrooms is likely to be more productive than a telephone call in the first instance, but make sure that it's in normal working hours as they may have to call their head office.

Somewhere in here you'll find an answer. Good luck.