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Pete Maddex":r2tpdmxu said:
One day you will go to that tall cupboard you keep them in and they will fall out and crush you :|
But somehow I think you might like to "go" like that :lol:
How many chisels and gouges?
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One day you will go to that tall cupboard you keep them in and they will fall out and crush you :|
But somehow I think you might like to "go" like that :lol:
Bod
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Man. I am but a beginer! 20+
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tobytools
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150 ish....... this includes woodworking, furniture, turning and carving chisels.... didn't count my cold chisel and chalking ones haha
and all of mine are sharp too
TT
and all of mine are sharp too
TT
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I was going to say around 60. But if we are adding turning ones it must be nearer 80. I recently gave 10 to a young bloke stating to get interested in our hobby. So must start looking for some more :|
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arnoldmason8
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I did a count of my chisels etc. today :- 35 firmer / bevel edge chisels
12 mortise chsels
37 gouges
78 carving chisels
I havent phtographed them all but here are a few WARDS in my collection :-
From left to right :-
Just over 1/16” wide and marked “Ward” and with octagonal handle– Is this an early one?
1/8” mortise chisel with oval handle
¼” bevel edge chisel with boxwood handle and with transfer on handle- quite late production I assume.
7/16” firmer chisel
½” bevel edge chisel with boxwood handle.
1” firmer chisel with home made replacement handle.
5/8” firmer chisel with boxwood handle.
½” firmer chisel with boxwood London pattern octagonal handle.
From the top
7/16” O/C gouge with boxwood handle.
5/8” I/C gouge with boxwood handle.
1 ¼” paring gouge with beech handle (poor).
From left to right
1 ¼” bevel edge chisel with boxwood handle.
1 ¼” heavy framing chisel (railway carriage maker’s ? ) with ash handle.
1 ½” firmer chisel with beech octagonal handle.
2” firmer chisel with ash handle.
Here is mine very similar exept mine is a blacksmith made one
Cheers Arnold
12 mortise chsels
37 gouges
78 carving chisels
I havent phtographed them all but here are a few WARDS in my collection :-
From left to right :-
Just over 1/16” wide and marked “Ward” and with octagonal handle– Is this an early one?
1/8” mortise chisel with oval handle
¼” bevel edge chisel with boxwood handle and with transfer on handle- quite late production I assume.
7/16” firmer chisel
½” bevel edge chisel with boxwood handle.
1” firmer chisel with home made replacement handle.
5/8” firmer chisel with boxwood handle.
½” firmer chisel with boxwood London pattern octagonal handle.
From the top
7/16” O/C gouge with boxwood handle.
5/8” I/C gouge with boxwood handle.
1 ¼” paring gouge with beech handle (poor).
From left to right
1 ¼” bevel edge chisel with boxwood handle.
1 ¼” heavy framing chisel (railway carriage maker’s ? ) with ash handle.
1 ½” firmer chisel with beech octagonal handle.
2” firmer chisel with ash handle.
wizard":4jcdbltu said:
Here is mine very similar exept mine is a blacksmith made one
Cheers Arnold
RogerP
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I have the grand total of 7 chisels :shock: ...... but a workshop full of other toys :wink:
tobytools
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your chisel roll must be huge, just a curious question why so many?
ive slashed my chisels by over half, and still going. no point in having 10 1/2" bevel edge chisels
2 would surface one for soft wood the other for hard wood.
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ive slashed my chisels by over half, and still going. no point in having 10 1/2" bevel edge chisels
2 would surface one for soft wood the other for hard wood.
TT
I just really like old chisels and gouges! And they don't take up a lot of space. I agree about the chisels, you only actually need a few, to use that is. But you can never have too many gouges (and carving tools)! I'm carving a violin scroll at the moment and it's nice to have the right sweep and width so that the carving comes straight off the tool.
tobytools
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I was just curious no offence intended,
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RogerP
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If I "collected" any woodworking tools I think it would be chisels and gouges. So many fascinating types and shapes for many different trades and even those going back two or even three centuries are not that expensive. I must admit I've sold/given away many over the years and there's some I now wish I kept.JohnPW":140amjh3 said:
Here's 5 more, makes a total of 198. I've some more on the way so that'll bring it to over 200.
Cleaned with meths and started sanding off the rust:
Sharpened and handles oiled:
The biggest one is George Barnsley, and apparently they were well known for shoe and leather working tools. There are lots of photos on various websites of their abandoned factory in Sheffield. The trademark is the letter A and a boot, although on my gouge there's an A, the boot looks different.
Found on the web:
The other less well known "maker"/brand is EJ Birch who was apparently a North London plane maker and tool dealer.
The boxwood handled gouge is Wales & Sons. It was covered in old paint when I got it and unfortunately I refinished it in the process of trying to get the paint off. And also the back has deep pitting near the business so I don't feel too bad having completely removed the "patina". I think I over did it on the brass but it'll darken again over time.
Cleaned with meths and started sanding off the rust:
Sharpened and handles oiled:
The biggest one is George Barnsley, and apparently they were well known for shoe and leather working tools. There are lots of photos on various websites of their abandoned factory in Sheffield. The trademark is the letter A and a boot, although on my gouge there's an A, the boot looks different.
Found on the web:
The other less well known "maker"/brand is EJ Birch who was apparently a North London plane maker and tool dealer.
The boxwood handled gouge is Wales & Sons. It was covered in old paint when I got it and unfortunately I refinished it in the process of trying to get the paint off. And also the back has deep pitting near the business so I don't feel too bad having completely removed the "patina". I think I over did it on the brass but it'll darken again over time.
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tobytools":jqfw12zi said:
The majority of my 70 or so are gouges - and when it comes to wood carving tools, there's always room for one more.
There's 14 basic profiles (flat; skew; 9 different circle arcs, from a tiny part of a circle up to a half circle; two u shapes (one with splayed upper walls, the other parallel; 3 V shapes (60, 75 and 100 degree angles)).
Each of those profile can come in a range of widths; Ashley Illes makes 18 different widths, from 1/16" (1.5 mm) up to 3" (70mm).
They can combine with four major shaft styles - straight, long bent, short bend and back bend.
So far that's just over 1000 different tools, without repeating. In practice not all tools are essential for all work - although there's definatly some carver out there that need that one weird tool, most carvers have only a few hundred. Grinling Gibbons was alleged to have had around 500, for example.
There's also differences with in-cannel vs out-cannel (vs double bevel), for gouges, and possibly cranked or dog leg shafts, not counting more obscure blade profiles like macaroni, or bull nosed variations.
In practice, I suspect that most carvers will carve most pieces with 10-40 tools at most (but that's a different 20-40 for each piece); with a common core of about 20 that are regular appearances (Again, that 20 will vary from carver to carver - someone who does relief carvings will have quite a different set from someone doing work in the round).
I've a list of a further 30 I want, just to eliminate the most egregious 'missing' tools from my sets…
Biliphuster
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I would be interested in seeing those carving tools if you would be inclined to take the photo.
Also a 3 inch gouge, golly. I have a 1.5 inch curved gouge (the Henry Taylor sculpture variant) which already feels huge.
Also a 3 inch gouge, golly. I have a 1.5 inch curved gouge (the Henry Taylor sculpture variant) which already feels huge.
Ah, I fear I may have accidentally misled - my own collection is small and unimpressive. At present, at any rate.
I was trying to outline when one would _want_ a large collection - and whilst I most defiantly do want, there's a a small matter time and money in the way of that as yet.
Plus, most of my chisels are at SWMBO's place; I'll take a few shots of the more interesting ones next time I can, but much of them will look much like everyone else's.
I was trying to outline when one would _want_ a large collection - and whilst I most defiantly do want, there's a a small matter time and money in the way of that as yet.
Plus, most of my chisels are at SWMBO's place; I'll take a few shots of the more interesting ones next time I can, but much of them will look much like everyone else's.
