How do i get the most wood from these?

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Alie Barnes

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I picked these up the other day at work but im not sure of the best way to cut them to get the most out of them as they are a difficult shape.

Suggestions wanted please.

Thanks


 
You have at least one crotch piece which would possibly make two of the sort of thing that Duncan has been possting lately. The others could be used for goblets (endgrain) or small bowls if split lengthways. With the knots from the limbs you could get some nice grain patterns. It's always hard to tell what is inside, one of the nice things about wood turning is you never know what is in the wood.

What wood are the logs and what sort of size?

Pete
 
As Pete says, you don't know until you get in there. but any anomalies such as branches, knots or old damage is where you will find the tree has reacted and will make interesting makings.

How you cut them will depend on what you use to cut with and how safe and accurate you are.
 
They are obviously branches of yew. You have nice contrast between the heart and sapwood which you can use to great effect. The different types of object you can make is almost endless.
 
Pretty sure they're not yew, the bark is very smooth rather than rough and scaly, but not sure what the wood is though :-k

Cheers, Paul :D
 
Soulfly":2kxszhpv said:
They are obviously branches of yew. You have nice contrast between the heart and sapwood which you can use to great effect. The different types of object you can make is almost endless.

its not yew

its hawthorn.

well i shall chainsaw them and then theyll head to the bandsaw.
i think ill just cut them down the pith and then see what i have left after that.
 
If it's Hawthorne you will have to do something pretty quick with it as it will start to crack very soon.
I had a trunk of Hawthorne and i cut it up,left it to dry and most of it split which was left.
All the pieces i turned were ok.
I would do some goblets,egg cups and vases with it :D
It turns lovely :D
 
Soulfly":29w7w5g7 said:
They are obviously branches of yew. You have nice contrast between the heart and sapwood which you can use to great effect. The different types of object you can make is almost endless.

...and the moon is made of green cheese :lol:
 
I would chainsaw it into bowl/goblet/vase/box sized blanks (avoiding the pith as much as possible if you are not going to turn it for a while) and keep it cool, moist and out of the wind (sometimes keep mine temporarily in bin bags with plenty of shavings). I would aim to roughturn as soon as possible, keeping walls about 10% thick, relative to the diameter of the object. If you do get some splits I would fill them with some brass inlay when you have finish-turned them in a few months time.

They don't look very wide - are they too small for bowls?
 
I have never had any hawthorn big enough to turn into anything much. but it is supposed to take a clean cut. and good for beading work if i am not mistaken? I remember it being advised for me to try making my 'fiddly' finials from.
 
Go along with Pauls comments about drying. slow it down as much as possible to avoid cracking or turn it thin green.

At the very least get some end seal on quickly, don't cut it up too small if you can't deal with the turning pretty soon, the longer the pieces the less waste from end splits.

Lovely reasonably dense wood for finishing if you can get it dry.

Don't remove the bark else side cracking may occur, the aim is to even the moisture loss out as much as possible.

Split down the middle with ends well sealed is possibly the line of least effort/risk scenario.
 
Hawthorne is really lovely to turn. It's very dense wood that's capable of taking fine details. It can contain amazing grain patterns and colour. It is very difficult to dry successfully and it is important not to include the pith. I've had reasonable success with the following methods...

1. Large dry hawthorne logs found in the firewood pile (ie felled and processed by someone else) - these had of course split badly - however there was still enough un-spilt wood for some short spindle blanks that I made into boxes. Some of these old logs were spalted too and very interesting.

2. Medium sized freshly felled logs - processed into spindle blanks or small bowl blanks and either a. kept in large buckets of frequently changed shavings before rough turning - reasonably success rate, although any blanks with knots in have all split at the knots, or b. the ends painted with PVA and stacked on shelves in unheated barn - similar succes rate to the shavings method, and again splitting at the knots (even when these were painted with PVA too).

3. Hawthorne branchwood - no real sucess due to inclusion of the pith - these always seem to split - although larger branches can be split down the pith to leave enough material for pens, small tool handles, etc.

Something else to be aware of with Hawthorne - it's commonly used for hedging and may often contain nasty "surprises" like fencing staples and nails deep inside the wood :?

tekno.mage
 
Hawthorne is great for turning but as said prone to splitting. If you do amke goblets you will find the foot in particular will split open however thin you go IME. This isn't a problem hoever as if you then fill and sand with an epoxy / coffe griounds mix it looks like a bark inclusion.

Pete
 
I cut it into several pieces, i have enough for say two bowls and rest will be spindles.

Ive rough turned one bowl piece and halved the rest and sealed them, theya re currently residing in bags with shavings in the shed.
 
Alie Barnes":1rxkkhra said:
theya re currently residing in bags with shavings in the shed.

Sounds like a good afternoon. Keep your eye on the timber in the bags as fungus will form eventually (maybe you prefer spalted wood?). :)
 
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