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Slight change of topic, but does anyone know where I might be able to get a Digital-8 cassette with something recorded on it? Sounds daft, I know, but I have an oldish sony Camcorder that has stopped recording, and it's been suggested that this is a CCD problem that may be covered by warranty even after 4 years. I need to see if it will still play back, and noone round here seems to have digital 8
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I have had to return something (faulty) and I just went to the site and followed the instructions for returning it. This involved printing an RMA form and no cost was involved. They even sent me the replacement before receiving my return.
I think if you log into your account and follow the process outlined in the "thinking of returning an item" section it will guide you through to an automated form you can print out.
To be fair to Amazon if you follow their automated process' you may be surprised at how customer friendly they are.

Alan
 
more details on the mac problems please.

the newer version of imovies is happy with MANY new formats of camcorder, however the older version (pre ilife 08) is VERY fussy indeed.

However I have managed to solve most peoples mac problems (about 80%) of the time with some simple mac freeware programmes.
most of the time its a case of pulling off the movie over usb, then coverting it to DV on the mac then importing into imovie.

as has been previously stated, mostly these camcorders compress into mpeg2, which results in a compression "loss of quality" when upcoding to dv and then back down to mepg2 in idvd.

steve
 
The Mac just doesn't recognise the files - at all. I can get the Mac to see the HDD on the camera, but not import the movies. Even the handbook says it doesn't work, as do the Mac forums I have visited.

Got a Canon MiniDV for £100 less, and it is a piece of cake to use (and sold by Apple, so OK for compatibility). Only there is no Firewire cable, which I will have to pick up tomorrow, so I haven't tried importing into iMovie yet.
 
Smudger":2p8iqdsw said:
The Mac just doesn't recognise the files - at all. I can get the Mac to see the HDD on the camera, but not import the movies. Even the handbook says it doesn't work, as do the Mac forums I have visited.

Got a Canon MiniDV for £100 less, and it is a piece of cake to use (and sold by Apple, so OK for compatibility). Only there is no Firewire cable, which I will have to pick up tomorrow, so I haven't tried importing into iMovie yet.


I too use miniDV and have'nt had any problems.
For the people that I have helped, getting access to the files via usb is vital.
Once that is established 80% of the time using MpegStreamclip (http://www.squared5.com/) solves the problems.
Mostly this involves pulling off the video, and up sampling to DV format, then importing into imovie.
You should note that this normally requires a Quicktime pro license to manipulate mpeg2. And involves some BIG files.

upgrading to ilife 08 noramlly solves theses issues as its supports alot more cameras and import formats.

problem, yes, but normally not a show stopper.
It does mean using software other than ilife, and takes the gloss off of the mac "just works" philosophy, but its a work-around.

just as a note, this is the way I import avi files recorded on my stills camera when the camcorder has been left at home. the quality is second to none!

Steve
 
Thanks - iLife 08 is not available as I use 3 pre-Intel Macs and can't afford to replace them. The Canon doesn't work with anything before 08! So I have 2 u/s camcorders, until:

I've now got it working using Streamclip, though it's clunky, as I then go through MPEG Playback 2 into iMovie HD.

Unfortunately in the meantime I bought the second camera. So I'm just a bit in that kaka, SWMBO-wise, especially as that doesn't work with iMovie HD. And even I can't justify 2 camcorders.

Anyone want to buy an almost brand new Canon MD216, several blank tapes and a Firewire cable?

Seriously...
 
Smudger":gp7lcjip said:
Thanks - iLife 08 is not available as I use 3 pre-Intel Macs and can't afford to replace them. The Canon doesn't work with anything before 08! So I have 2 u/s camcorders, until:

I've now got it working using Streamclip, though it's clunky, as I then go through MPEG Playback 2 into iMovie HD.

Unfortunately in the meantime I bought the second camera. So I'm just a bit in that kaka, SWMBO-wise, especially as that doesn't work with iMovie HD. And even I can't justify 2 camcorders.

Anyone want to buy an almost brand new Canon MD216, several blank tapes and a Firewire cable?

Seriously...
I also use a pre-intel mac mini and I can assure you that ilife 08 does work with pre-intel macs. even G4 ones, just needs a bit of hackery :)
It is in the system requirements for imove 08 that you have at least a G5 or an intel mac, but I've had it working on my G4.
a simple google will find the info your after.
streamclip is a superb bit of software, many many uses.

glad to have helped

as for the clunkiness, you'll find any video editing using DV is fairly "clunky" its a function of the massive files sizes used.
However you can implement a few tricks

1) make sure you disable the dashbard, you won't use it whilst editing a video so it just burns cpu cycles (google disable osx dashboard)
2) "renice" mpeg streamclip, this is a way in unix systems to give a programme overall priority use of the cpu.
i.e. open terminal (in applications/utilities) or an x11 console (if you have x installed), then type:
top -ocpu
you should see a list of all processes currently burning cpu cycles.
Note the PID of the streamclip programme.
exit by pressing control+C
then type
sudo renice -20 PID
where "PID" is the number you noted before.

This will make streamclip (or infact any other programme you like) top priority on the processor.

I use this an a hell of alot on single processor unix systems to squeeze the most out of them.

quitting streamclip will return the system priority to normal.

if you do alot of video editing, get an external firewire enclosure and stick a big disk into it. (pretty cheap now, around £100 for 500gig).
You'll see an impressive speed boost, unlike usb, firewire is a peer to peer networking protocol and thus speed is not compromised by adding more drives. (bandwidth is not shared across devices unlike usb)
infact i run my entire mac from a chain of FW disks and using xbench i can get about twice the disk performance compared to the internal laptop drive used in my ppc mini.

sorry for the lecture, hope some of this helps somebody, I had to learn most of it the hard way.

Steve (self confessed mac geek)
 
Smudger":1vsa65f7 said:
Thanks, Steve. What was your Google?

Incidentally, I had it confirmed by Apple that 08 needs Intel!

yup, I'll go find the page for you.

I can run the entire life08 on my G4 mini if I want, irrespective of what apple say.

I believe apple should have told you that ilfe08 will run, but not all apps (including imovie08)

Iphoto08, Idvd08, iweb08, all run fine on a G4.
Imove08 needs hackery,

just google "imovie08 on G4"

PM if you can't find it.

Regards

Steve
 
RogerS":148kw9rk said:
Smudger":148kw9rk said:
Thanks, Steve. What was your Google?

Incidentally, I had it confirmed by Apple that 08 needs Intel!

Suggest the Apple person you spoke to needs some retraining!

http://www.apple.com/ilife/systemrequirements.html Says a G4 is fine.

But intriguingly I seem to have 'lost' iMovie on my G4. Mmmm...

with hackery imovie08 is possible.

else what happens is you are given a link to download a "special" version of imove07 that will work with the rest of ilife08.

I have had both options working in the past.

steve
 
RogerS":1kl9wdrw said:
Smudger":1kl9wdrw said:
Thanks, Steve. What was your Google?

Incidentally, I had it confirmed by Apple that 08 needs Intel!

Suggest the Apple person you spoke to needs some retraining!

http://www.apple.com/ilife/systemrequirements.html Says a G4 is fine.

But intriguingly I seem to have 'lost' iMovie on my G4. Mmmm...

It was specifically iMovie that needs Intel.
He's actually at Cupertino and asked the Genius trainers...

Now I've got a system I think I'm going to stick to it. I've just emailed Jessops to see if they will take the Canon back, given that I specified it had to work with iMovie.
 
Smudger":a86a0mf3 said:
RogerS":a86a0mf3 said:
Smudger":a86a0mf3 said:
Thanks, Steve. What was your Google?

Incidentally, I had it confirmed by Apple that 08 needs Intel!

Suggest the Apple person you spoke to needs some retraining!

http://www.apple.com/ilife/systemrequirements.html Says a G4 is fine.

But intriguingly I seem to have 'lost' iMovie on my G4. Mmmm...

It was specifically iMovie that needs Intel.
He's actually at Cupertino and asked the Genius trainers...

Now I've got a system I think I'm going to stick to it. I've just emailed Jessops to see if they will take the Canon back, given that I specified it had to work with iMovie.

you would have thought that somebody this far down the knowledge chain would have known their stuff don't you?

oh well, lots of bad info out there I suppose, it can be done if required.

Steve
 
Slight hijack...

I used to have iMovie and iDVD for that matter on my G4. Used iMovie to do some early editing but that was well over a year ago. Since then Leopard has come along etc etc but I now realise that iMOvie and iDVD and garageband (not that I use it) seem to have disappeared off the face of my G4.

Does it come with leopard? Separate disk?

Slightly nonplussed!

Thanks

Roger
 
RogerS":3csjohpn said:
Slight hijack...

I used to have iMovie and iDVD for that matter on my G4. Used iMovie to do some early editing but that was well over a year ago. Since then Leopard has come along etc etc but I now realise that iMOvie and iDVD and garageband (not that I use it) seem to have disappeared off the face of my G4.

Does it come with leopard? Separate disk?

Slightly nonplussed!

Thanks

Roger

gonna have to be more specific, did you upgrade to leopard? fresh install? upgraded install?

ilife08 does'nt come with leopard, you have to buy it.
Buy a new mac though and it all comes pre-installed.

is the rest of ilife on there?

have you tried spotlight to find imovie?

Steve
 
kityuser":zud0vs6q said:
RogerS":zud0vs6q said:
Slight hijack...

I used to have iMovie and iDVD for that matter on my G4. Used iMovie to do some early editing but that was well over a year ago. Since then Leopard has come along etc etc but I now realise that iMOvie and iDVD and garageband (not that I use it) seem to have disappeared off the face of my G4.

Does it come with leopard? Separate disk?

Slightly nonplussed!

Thanks

Roger

gonna have to be more specific, did you upgrade to leopard? fresh install? upgraded install?

ilife08 does'nt come with leopard, you have to buy it.
Buy a new mac though and it all comes pre-installed.

is the rest of ilife on there?

have you tried spotlight to find imovie?

Steve

Steve

It was a fresh install of Leopard so guess I must have overwritten the apps inadvertently when I installed it. Just found a CD with iLife 06 on it so that explains it. :oops: What confused me is that I do have iTunes and iPhoto. Spotlight didn't find iMovie but not surprisingly seeing as how I must have overwritten the stuff

:oops: :oops:
 
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