Grinding jigs

[UnicycleBloke]

I have a simple adjustable flat table in front of my wheel. I thought it would be good to learn to grind a gouge myself. I mean, I can program the video recorder: how hard could it be? :lol:

So after producing much irons filings, and magnetising my tools in the process...

Any recommendations?


Al

 

[duncanh]

Hi Al
I read you post and just noticed your name - are by any chance the Cambridge unicyclist who Roger (from the Durham club and Unicycle.com) mentioned to me last week?

I have the Trugrind jig and it's generally good, although the new version has a slight flaw. There are plenty of other similar jigs to buy but this is the only one I've used.
It's also possible to make your own and there are threads on here describing how to do so - they're pretty straightforward.
I'm sure someone else will be along soon with other recommendations.

Duncan
(Newcastle juggler)

 

[loz]

Iron filing ? -

You bought the wrong tools mate - you wanna be using steel !!!



Loads of options. I use a Sorby Delux universal, which i think is great, My tutor has wolverine and raves about it.

 

[UnicycleBloke]

I read you post and just noticed your name - are by any chance the Cambridge unicyclist who Roger (from the Durham club and Unicycle.com) mentioned to me last week?

The very same. I'm hoping to see Roger at my housewarming this weekend.

I had another go at the bowl gouge this evening, and seemed to do rather better. No blueing either.

I'm reminded of the game, Elite. You must frequently dock with a space station: a tricky and disaster-prone chore you just have to learn. Once you've earned enough money, you can buy a docking computer to do it, by which time you don't need one. Perhaps I'll save my beans for a little longer, and see what develops.


Al

 

[Wood spoiler]

Hi
I started from scratch a few months back and took advice in setting up from Peter at Toolpost.
He advised and set me up with the Wolverine system from One Way.
I have no other experience. However from the first I am getting good simple grinds on all tools including making "Celtic" fingernail grinds on bowl and spindle gouge.
I have spent my time learning to turn. Keeping my tools consistently ground first time every time has made that particular topic a " non issue"
Hope this helps
Colin

 

[Jacob]

I have a simple adjustable flat table in front of my wheel. I thought it would be good to learn to grind a gouge myself. I mean, I can program the video recorder: how hard could it be? :lol:

So after producing much irons filings, and magnetising my tools in the process...

Any recommendations?


Al

I recommend avoiding wheels altogether and using an upside down belt sander instead.
It gives a flat bevel, generally runs cooler than a wheel, is easier to maintain an angle freehand without a jig, and you can also use it as a sander!

 

[miles_hot]

I have a simple adjustable flat table in front of my wheel. I thought it would be good to learn to grind a gouge myself. I mean, I can program the video recorder: how hard could it be? :lol:

So after producing much irons filings, and magnetising my tools in the process...

Any recommendations?


Al

I recommend avoiding wheels altogether and using an upside down belt sander instead.
It gives a flat bevel, generally runs cooler than a wheel, is easier to maintain an angle freehand without a jig, and you can also use it as a sander!

I'm impressed you manage to sharpen your bowl gouge that way! The flat vs curved bevel is a discussion which has been done, if not to death then certainly extensively, so I'll not go into it If the OP wants to spend some cash and get a jig setup and is convinced of the need for a flat bevel I'd strongly suggest the Pro Edge as this has a strong following...

Miles

 

[CHJ]

...If the OP wants to spend some cash and get a jig setup and is convinced of the need for a flat bevel I'd strongly suggest the Pro Edge as this has a strong following...

Miles

The operative words being 'spend some cash' to someone on a budget any 'System' is a significant outlay.

A simple home made rest on the pattern show in the Keith Rowley book for Scrapers, Skews and Roughing Gouges costs pence, and a home made jig based on the geometry of the Tormek/Sorby setup will do for swept back grinds and likewise can be produced from shop scraps.

You can buy a lot of gouges for £300 and they last a long while even when constantly touched up on a normal white wheel cheap grinder.

My favorite pick up Hamlet Bowl gouge is 6 yrs old and I've managed to reduce its length by all of 20mm in that time.

 

[chipchaser]

I'm with mr G Rimsdale and Chaz here. The only drawback I have found is the difficulty of obtaining fine grit belts. I have one 240 grit but would like some finer grit belts. On my DIY wish list is making a leather faced honing wheel/disc.

As to the ProEdge it would be nice to be affluent enough to fund one but the jig designs freely available are easily adapted to suit a belt sander.

Graham

 

[jpt]

HI Al

If you are coming to club next Saturday bring your tools with you and I will show you how I sharpen mine using just a flat table.

john

 

[big soft moose]

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I'm reminded of the game, Elite. You must frequently dock with a space station: a tricky and disaster-prone chore you just have to learn. Once you've earned enough money, you can buy a docking computer to do it, by which time you don't need one. Perhaps I'll save my beans for a little longer, and see what develops.


Al

Nice metaphor - I never found docking in elite to be particularly taxing (unlike flying down the worm hole in firefox but i digress) so long as one had the right hard ware - ie a joystick, trying to do it on the bog standard keyboard was asking from trouble.

and so it is with sharpening turning gouges - so long as you have a decent rest doing it freehand is easy if you have steady hands and smooth tool control. Trying to do it on the crappy little platforms that come prefitted to the grinder is a recipe for disaster

 

[loz]

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I'm reminded of the game, Elite. You must frequently dock with a space station: a tricky and disaster-prone chore you just have to learn. Once you've earned enough money, you can buy a docking computer to do it, by which time you don't need one. Perhaps I'll save my beans for a little longer, and see what develops.


Al

Nice metaphor - I never found docking in elite to be particularly taxing (unlike flying down the worm hole in firefox but i digress) so long as one had the right hard ware - ie a joystick, trying to do it on the bog standard keyboard was asking from trouble.

and so it is with sharpening turning gouges - so long as you have a decent rest doing it freehand is easy if you have steady hands and smooth tool control. Trying to do it on the crappy little platforms that come prefitted to the grinder is a recipe for disaster

Guys !!
Docking Computer !

 

[big soft moose]

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I'm reminded of the game, Elite. You must frequently dock with a space station: a tricky and disaster-prone chore you just have to learn. Once you've earned enough money, you can buy a docking computer to do it, by which time you don't need one. Perhaps I'll save my beans for a little longer, and see what develops.


Al

Nice metaphor - I never found docking in elite to be particularly taxing (unlike flying down the worm hole in firefox but i digress) so long as one had the right hard ware - ie a joystick, trying to do it on the bog standard keyboard was asking from trouble.

and so it is with sharpening turning gouges - so long as you have a decent rest doing it freehand is easy if you have steady hands and smooth tool control. Trying to do it on the crappy little platforms that come prefitted to the grinder is a recipe for disaster

Guys !!
Docking Computer !

yeah but why waste credits on a docking computer if you can do it reliably by hand - then you can spend the money saved on trade goods and/or enhanced weaponry

 

[loz]

waste credits ?


i had a sinclair specky, pause the install, enter the poke for infinate cash , continue install, buy a docking computer, a cloaking device and a military lazer before leaving the first station .........

 

[UnicycleBloke]

If you are coming to club next Saturday bring your tools with you and I will show you how I sharpen mine using just a flat table.

Thanks, but my folks are visiting that weekend.

I'm going to try making a fingernail jig out of scraps. Mind you, not many scraps since I've just moved in. I'll raid the workshop at work...


Al

 

[big soft moose]

waste credits ?


i had a sinclair specky, pause the install, enter the poke for infinate cash , continue install, buy a docking computer, a cloaking device and a military lazer before leaving the first station .........

Do you have any idea where we can get one of them "poke for infinite cash" thingys for real life